''Arms Licence-Inventing Objections''

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''Arms Licence-Inventing Objections''

Post by nasada » Mon Jun 04, 2012 12:13 pm

It seems that all administrators are doing is inventing objections for choking applications of arms licence on verbal instructions of higher authorities.

An ADM in Himachal is refering back many applications to SP in which he has completed the process of verification. Many cases are sent back with a question :

''Whether issue of arms licence in the name of applicant is bad for the situation of law and order in our district?''

The objection is investigated in such a way as if applicant has comitted a crime in applying for an arms licence and ADM has specific knowledge About it. This question is asked after the ADM has received positive verification from the SP for issue of licence.

The completion of verification by police must be completed within 45 days as per Govt rule but this pendency is created after the verification process has been completed. So time rule does not apply on this choke diversion.

This diversion is followed in cases which have no connection with ruling party/ netaji/ judge sahab/ boss/ staff obligation/ or other filters which LA seems fit for the game.

It looks like applying for an arms licence automatically means fighting a case in the court.
Indian IAS clearly working like colonial british officers to deny common people protection of arms.

Creating new diversions to keep documents pending saves LA from litigations till he receives orders for transfer. What an idea sirji.

Is there a fixed time period within which the LA must clear or reject applications for issue of arms licence?

Does keeping pending beyond reasonable time by LA automatically means denial?

Please give court judgement/ notification / rule/ section which can help

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Re: ''Arms Licence-Inventing Objections''

Post by veeveeaar » Mon Jun 04, 2012 12:35 pm

These IPS & IAS babus ( B#####s) think that they have become dictators overnite by their becoming an IAS or IPS officer. Instances are there where the ADM (lady) who was a honest and timid one, Personally instructed all renewal apllicants to fore go their arms. One straight talking licencee put his foot down and asked her about the need for her PSO and Duffadar and whether she can do away with them and if she had the guts to come or go alone in an auto rickshaw inside her own judistriction alone.
Being an executive 1 st class magistrates, and lack of knowledge and basic common sense , i was asked by an IAS sub collector as to what provisions i had made for fire fighting in case of emergencies as guns are '' FIRE ARMS '' :cry: :cry: :cry:
It is our fate that we are governed by these THUKLAQs

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Re: ''Arms Licence-Inventing Objections''

Post by goodboy_mentor » Mon Jun 04, 2012 1:29 pm

Is there a fixed time period within which the LA must clear or reject applications for issue of arms licence?
Please read Section 13 of Arms Act 1959, it talks about "prescribed time" within which police has to send report. If police fails to send report within "prescribed time", the LA is required to not keep waiting forever but issue the license. This is because arms are fundamental right of citizens under Article 19 and 21, thus LA is not expected to sit indefinitely undecided on application.
Does keeping pending beyond reasonable time by LA automatically means denial?
No. On the other hand license should be deemed to have been issued since LA has not been able to find any material to deny under Section 14 of Arms Act 1959.
Please give court judgement/ notification / rule/ section which can help
There are many judgments. Main question is what is the purpose? Just for reading or filing a writ in High Court?
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Re: ''Arms Licence-Inventing Objections''

Post by nasada » Mon Jun 04, 2012 2:13 pm

Sir goodboy_mentor
The police verification in mentioned cases have already been completed within prescribed time and the dept does not accept the time frame rule for answer of other details or objections. The ADM asks this question to SP under section 14 (b) ii.
Once police verification is completed in the case, how relevant is this objection?

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Re: ''Arms Licence-Inventing Objections''

Post by goodboy_mentor » Mon Jun 04, 2012 5:52 pm

Sir nasada if police has already submitted its positive report, then where is the need or question of asking police again under Section 14(b)ii of Arms Act 1959? LA is just wasting time and trying to avoid issuing license under Section 13 of Arms Act 1959.

May read this judgment, it is also related to the drama of Section 14(b)ii of Arms Act 1959 http://indiansforguns.com/viewtopic.php ... 15#p103621

You may also read these:
1. http://indiansforguns.com/viewtopic.php ... 64#p147708
2. http://indiansforguns.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=17120
3. http://indiansforguns.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=13504
4. http://indiansforguns.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=16494
5. http://indiansforguns.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=15638
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