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security guards

Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 4:15 pm
by essar57
Can anyone let me know how one can get a license for security guards? are there any rules/regulations/guidelines where it is stipulated under what circumstances they can use the weapon

Re: security guards

Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 4:50 pm
by m24
essar57 wrote:Can anyone let me know how one can get a license for security guards? are there any rules/regulations/guidelines where it is stipulated under what circumstances they can use the weapon
You'll have to check that with MHA. Put an RTI and they'll respond to your query. Meanwhile try contacting a fellow member "Godrej" by PM.

Regards

Re: security guards

Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 6:13 pm
by goodboy_mentor
are there any rules/regulations/guidelines where it is stipulated under what circumstances they can use the weapon
There are 3 reasons under which any firearm license holder can use the gun, depending on the purpose for which they have been granted license:
1) For self defense as allowed by Sections 96 to 106 IPC(can refer http://vickykapoor.com/articles/article ... f-defence/ or do a search at google.com )
2) For sport/target practice
3) For hunting/crop protection(for hunting permission has to be taken from local authorities)

Re: security guards

Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 12:08 pm
by essar57
goodboy_mentor wrote:
are there any rules/regulations/guidelines where it is stipulated under what circumstances they can use the weapon
There are 3 reasons under which any firearm license holder can use the gun, depending on the purpose for which they have been granted license:
1) For self defense as allowed by Sections 96 to 106 IPC(can refer <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://vickykapoor.com/articles/article ... es/article ... f-defence/</a><!-- m --> or do a search at google.com )
2) For sport/target practice
3) For hunting/crop protection(for hunting permission has to be taken from local authorities)
Thank you. any info about guidelines for security guards? since the asset /person they are protecting may not come under the purview of Self Defence?

Re: security guards

Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 12:55 pm
by nagarifle
for security companies there is the private security company act, under which a company can obtain arms for its guards, on the other hand if an individual guard wants an arm then application has to be made as an individual.

Re: security guards

Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 2:15 pm
by goodboy_mentor
since the asset /person they are protecting may not come under the purview of Self Defence?
Requesting to read very carefully sections 96 to 106 IPC, for understanding the meaning of Right of Private Defense(Section 99 mentions what is not Private Defense and the extent of Private Defense)
http://www.vakilno1.com/bareacts/Indian ... alcode.htm
Section 97. Right of private defence of the body and of property
Every person has a right, subject to the restrictions contained in Section 99, to defend-
First-His own body, and the body of any other person, against any offence affecting the human body;
Secondly-The property, whether movable or immovable, of himself or of any other person, against any act which is an offence falling under the definition of theft, robbery, mischief or criminal trespass, or which is an attempt to commit theft, robbery, mischief for criminal trespass.

Re: security guards

Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 2:23 pm
by essar57
thanks. any known amplifying guidelines on the subject?

Re: security guards

Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 2:46 pm
by nagarifle
best to ask your DM/DC office to get their view.

Re: security guards

Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 2:47 pm
by essar57
thanks

Re: security guards

Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 9:35 pm
by m24
Check this.

An amendment was also proposed if I am not wrong.

Regards

Re: security guards

Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 12:45 am
by goodboy_mentor
Check this.
An amendment was also proposed if I am not wrong.
This amendment is not about issuing of arms licenses to security agencies but is about regulating security agencies, therefore not related to issue of arms licenses.
Arms licenses are only issued as per provisions of Arms Act 1959. Any person/company/security agency etc. can apply for arms license under Arms Act 1959. The system of Retainer-ship is there for them so that the security guards are made retainers of the arms owned by the firm.
Also see Form III-A / III-B of Schedule III of The Arms Rules, 1962. Refer Notification No: S.O. 954, dated December, 8, 1987, in which a Bank/Company/Establishment/Firms are excluded from the provisions of Section 3 (2) and can keep more than three weapons.

Re: security guards

Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 2:36 am
by nagarifle
thanks GM