Prohibited Bore calibres & firearms

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Re: IOF PISTOL AUTO 9mm 1A

Post by toorparminder » Sat Sep 26, 2009 1:45 pm

hello everybody can anyone helps me to have p bore licence as i want to retain my uncle's webley .38 revolver he is 72 years old and agree to transfer it in my name i am already a licence holder covering one usa dbbl and webley .32 revolver.

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Re: IOF PISTOL AUTO 9mm 1A

Post by Rottmeister » Sat Sep 26, 2009 4:26 pm

Parminder, a .38 is a NPB, unless it's the .38/200 i.e. the .38 S&W. I think you have one in the .38 Spl caliber. Please ask Mundaire; he is the best one to advise you on this matter.
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Re: IOF PISTOL AUTO 9mm 1A

Post by toorparminder » Mon Sep 28, 2009 3:28 pm

RottLord wrote:Parminder, a .38 is a NPB, unless it's the .38/200 i.e. the .38 S&W. I think you have one in the .38 Spl caliber. Please ask Mundaire; he is the best one to advise you on this matter.
thanks rottLord you are right revolver with ny uncle is .38 s&w thanks for reply & suggestion

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hello mundaire can anyone helps me to have p bore licence as i want to retain my uncle's webley .38 revolver he is 72 years old and agree to transfer it in my name i am already a licence holder covering one usa dbbl and webley .32 revolver.

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Re: IOF PISTOL AUTO 9mm 1A

Post by OverUnderPump » Mon Sep 28, 2009 3:56 pm

Parminder,

Mundaire is currently out of town.
IIRC, you can get it done as a transfer of family heirloom , provided the firearm has been in the family for 20 yrs.

Otherwise the Ministry of Home Affairs is the place to contact if one needs a PB license.
As far as Delhi goes, I am posting the information from the Delhi Police web site:

As per MHA's letter No. V-11019/160/2003-Arms dated 8.12.2003, regarding Grant of P.B./Semi Automatic weapons to legal heirs of the licensee under family heirloom policy. Two types of cases (i) where the licensee has expired without having the P.B. weapon transferred in the name of his/her legal heir and (ii) where license holder intends to transfer the P.B. weapon during his life time, are being considered under this policy.

In (1) case as and when the licensee is expired, the weapons held by him/her should be deposited with the nearest police station/authorised dealer by their first legal heir. As regards issue of P.B. Arms License to legal heir, the following documents are to be submitted by the legal heir with DCP/Licensing, 1st floor, Police Station Defence Colony, New Delhi :-

1) Application on prescribed Form "A" (available with DCP/Licensing.)

2) Fee Receipt of Rs. 300/- (to be deposited with DCP/Licensing.)

3) Original Death Certificate of the deceased licensee from authorised body.

4) If the application is made after a period of 3 months after the death of licensee, the status of weapon and reasons of delay.

5) Two attested (back side) photographs of the applicant.

6) The original license of the deceased.

7) No objection affidavit on Non-Judicial Stamp Paper from other legal applicant's name (Proforma available with DCP/Licensing.)

DCP/Licensing after scrutinising the case and by calling verification report from local police, will forward the case to MHA through GNCT for grant of license being a competent authority. However, for any clarification in this regard, DCP/Licensing at 1st Floor, Police Station Defence Colony, (near Mool Chand Flyover), New Delhi, may kindly be contacted.


Let Mundaire return and you can take up the intricacies of this aspect with him.Wishing/hoping for the best.

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Re: Prohibited Bore calibres & firearms

Post by limbka11 » Mon Mar 01, 2010 10:06 pm

Hi Guys

Is a .45 ACP Sub Compact Pistol considered a PB or NPB arm in India...?
Can a foreigner get a .45 ACP Sub Compact Pistol on visit to India if he has the necessary tourist arms license for India...?

Thanks for the time and response in advance...
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Re: Prohibited Bore calibres & firearms

Post by cottage cheese » Mon Mar 01, 2010 10:37 pm

limbka11 wrote:Hi Guys

Is a .45 ACP Sub Compact Pistol considered a PB or NPB arm in India...?
Can a foreigner get a .45 ACP Sub Compact Pistol on visit to India if he has the necessary tourist arms license for India...?

Thanks for the time and response in advance...
Yaar...read and search the threads...all the information is therein.

Anyway to cut things short, .45ACP is prohibited bore and the type of weapon- full size/compact/sub-compact/carbine/smg or any permutation thereof, is irrelevant.

You can bring an NPB weapon as a tourist only in theory.

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Re: Prohibited Bore calibres & firearms

Post by carbine » Tue Mar 02, 2010 9:19 pm

PB bore weapons are not transfered to anyone by home ministry. my grandfather have .30M1 Carbine and .38 calibre H&R revolver .which is not trasfered to my father on heirloom basis .my father met special secreatory of central home ministry he told that there can be no tranfer of weapon .you can surrender the weapon or you can sell the weapon to arms dealer

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Re: Prohibited Bore calibres & firearms

Post by winnie_the_pooh » Tue Mar 02, 2010 9:51 pm

carbine wrote:PB bore weapons are not transfered to anyone by home ministry. my grandfather have .30M1 Carbine and .38 calibre H&R revolver .which is not trasfered to my father on heirloom basis .my father met special secreatory of central home ministry he told that there can be no tranfer of weapon .you can surrender the weapon or you can sell the weapon to arms dealer
I am afraid that your father is being misled.They can and are transferred on heirloom basis.If you so wish,send me a PM and I can guide you.

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Re: Prohibited Bore calibres & firearms

Post by TwoRivers » Tue Mar 02, 2010 11:53 pm

That French list is a shining example of bureaucratic competence. I'm surprised they don't have the .300 Win Mag on it, since that is being used in sniper rifles by some armies. And the 8x51 Mauser? Must have taken that "K" for "Karabiner". Would be interesting to know what cartridge their "8mm type 66" really is. A little knowledge is dangerous indeed.

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Re: Prohibited Bore calibres & firearms

Post by millijava » Sun Mar 21, 2010 7:46 am

Wow!! I truly feel for all of my fellow firearm enthusiasts in India. Reading this thread has made me appreciate anew the freedoms some take for granted in this country. The minor inconveniences gun owners endure in the states pales by comparison to the oppressive and confusing mess you wade through to own your weapons.

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Re: Prohibited Bore calibres & firearms

Post by rpm148 » Wed Apr 28, 2010 5:27 am

I'm surprised that the Government factories don't start manufacturing ammunition in larger NPB calibers so that people can own handguns in those calibers and keep them for defense--you have a lot of good options such as 40, 357 mag, 357 sig, 38 spl, 38 super, 44 spl, 44 mag, and also 380 and 9x18 makarov. Personally I think 9x18 mak and 380 are essentially identical as far as performance.

What are the laws regarding importation of handguns that are manufactured abroad. It's a stupid question, I know--I can already guess what the answer will be.

I don't understand why the largest democracy in the world, and a country that struggled under british reign for several hundred years, is so restrictive with their gun laws. The criminals never obtain their weapons through legal conduits--these laws only make it more difficult for us law-abiding citizens to defend ourselves and our homes. God knows that the police are slow to respond, and they can't be everywhere at once.

Additionally, if India were to allow the ammunition industry to privatize and tax them, it would provide a source of income, economic growth, and a job market (as well as better ammo). Is it illegal to mail ammunition to India via private courier (i.e. FedEx, DHL, etc). I'm sure my nanaji could use some nice .32 JHP's for is iof revolver...

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Re: Prohibited Bore calibres & firearms

Post by nolderine » Tue May 04, 2010 11:34 pm

I Am just simply trying to find 2 lists 1 consisting of NPB's and one of PB I cant find one anywhere on the net and i need to know whether or not I can bring my sig p220 or g19 or g30

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Re: Prohibited Bore calibres & firearms

Post by mundaire » Wed May 05, 2010 11:44 am

nolderine wrote:I Am just simply trying to find 2 lists 1 consisting of NPB's and one of PB I cant find one anywhere on the net and i need to know whether or not I can bring my sig p220 or g19 or g30
There is only 1 list - that of what constitute PB calibres, everything else is NPB. Please read the first few pages of this thread to get a clearer picture.

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Re: Prohibited Bore calibres & firearms

Post by cottage cheese » Tue Jul 06, 2010 1:58 pm

nolderine wrote:I Am just simply trying to find 2 lists 1 consisting of NPB's and one of PB I cant find one anywhere on the net and i need to know whether or not I can bring my sig p220 or g19 or g30
I though you couldn't own stuff like that in the UK...er Scotland? in the first place.
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Re: Prohibited Bore calibres & firearms

Post by hamiclar01 » Tue Jul 06, 2010 2:32 pm

CC, we're surprised by his remarks too, and I remember Naga and me asking him on another of his few posts how he got his hands on a handgun in the UK, and have yet to get an answer
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