4th firearm (22lr) on a licence....

[diskaon]

Sir,

You are really trying to push your luck here

diskaon

[perazzi]

I have heard that life members of the NRAI can own a 04th weapon in the form of a .22 rifle !!!

Is the above true and if yes can this be substantiated ???

Reason for asking is that i had gone to the New Delhi Addtl CP Licensing deptt in Def Col and the designated gents from the deptt flatly refused that a 04th weapon (.22 rifle) was not allowed under any circumstances unless one is a renowned shot.

Your help on the above would be highly appreciated but please do not just put your comments on what YOU feel but please substantiate the same so that it can help me and others like me who are in the same predicament.

Thanks & Regards ,

Rohit.

[HydNawab]

Rohit,

As a NRAI member, you are eligible for an additional .22 rifle as your fourth weapon.Will try to get a copy of the G.O which states the same.Just checked on the NRAI website and they dont have it.

Will get back to you by this evening.

Cheers

Ashar

[indian]

so sad every baboo interprets the act in his own way

[Anand]

Hello gentlemen,
Its there in the Arms Law, but it would help if there was a notification/G.O, because the Licensing Authorities will be looking for precedence, to generally cover their behinds, and also to make it a little harder for us.

Anand

[cottage cheese]

so sad every baboo interprets the act in his own way

Forget interpretation- Actually, most of the time the old farts simply don't know

[perazzi]

Ashar ,

That would be extremely helpful (hopefully) but then one never knows what the gents at the licensing deptt will say in order to contradict the document.

In any case will let you all know the outcome once i recv the document from Ashar and show it to the licensing deptt.

Will send you a pm with my coordinates.

Cheers Rohit.

[mundaire]

All threads regarding this subject have now been merged... wish members would take the trouble of using the site search before starting a fresh thread...

Cheers!
Abhijeet

[perazzi]

Mack The Knife Hi ,

The link that you had given is not working anymore.
Much appreciate if you could send me the notification that Sujay had given you.
Will send you my coordinates via PM.

Cheers Rohit.

[Sujay]

Rohit,

The link you are trying is actually an interpratation of the relevant section of the arms act. The portion from the bare act was also posted by me on page no 1. Here it is.....

http://www.vakilno1.com/bareacts/Armsac ... r2/S3.html

And for my interpretation of the text, see again my second post on page no 1 of this thread.

This time, I am also posting the relevant section as contained in the Arms Act. Note that there is no mention of "life membership"

All the best,

Sujay

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3. Licence for acquisition and possession of firearms and ammunition — [ Note: S. 3 renumbered as sub section (1) thereof by Act 25 of 1983, s. 3 (w.e.f. 22-6-1983) ] (1) No person shall acquire, have in his possession, or carry any firearm or ammunition unless he holds in this behalf a licence issued in accordance with the provisions of this Act and the rules made there under :

Provided that a person may, without himself holding a licence carry any firearms or ammunition in the presence, or under the written authority, of the holder of the licence for repair or for renewal of the licence or for use by such holder.

(2) [ Note: Ins. by s. 3., ibid., (w.e.f. 22-6-1983) ] Notwithstanding anything contained in sub-section (1), no person, other than a person referred to in sub-section (3), shall acquire, have in his possession to carry, at any time, more than three firearms:

Provided that a person who has in his possession more firearms than three at the commencement of the Arms (Amendment) Act, 1983, may retain with him any three of such firearms and shall deposit, within ninety days from such, commencement the remaining firearms with the officer in charge of the nearest police station or, subject to the conditions prescribed for the purposes of sub-section(1) of section 21, with a licensed dealer or, where such person is a member of the armed forces of the Union, in a unit armoury referred to in that sub-section.

(3) Nothing contained in sub-section (2) shall apply to any dealer in firearms or to any member of a rifle club or rifle association licensed or recognised by the Central Government using a point 22 bore rifle or an air rifle for target practice.

(4) The provisions of sub-section (2) to (6) (both inclusive) of section 21 shall apply in relation to any deposit of firearms under the proviso to sub-section(2) as they apply in relation to the deposit of any arms or ammunition under sub-section (1) of that section.]

Comments

The power & jurisdiction of the licensing authority to initiate ‘cancellation of licence’ proceedings, has been vested with the A.D.M. (Lakhan Singh v. Commissioner, Jhansi Div., Jhansi & Ors.; AIR 1984 All. 122 (123)]

[mundaire]

I would suggest that anyone applying for a .22 LR rifle license as a 4rth firearm (for target practice), submit a covering letter along with the application addressed to the relevant local licensing authority.

It should be something along the lines of:

Sir/ Madam,

Please find enclosed my application for a fourth firearm license, a .22 rifle for target practice. This is application is made as per Sections 3 (1), 3(2) and 3 (3) of the Arms Act 1959. Please find enclosed along with my application a copy of my xyz rifle association/ shooting club membership card, a copy of the relevant sections of the Arms Act 1959, participation certificates for xyz competition held at abc city, letter of recommendation from xyz rifle association/ shooting club etc. etc.

The above is merely an indicative covering letter, am sure members here would be able to take it from here...

Cheers!
Abhijeet

[The Doc]

I would suggest that anyone applying for a .22 LR rifle license as a 4rth firearm (for target practice), submit a covering letter along with the application addressed to the relevant local licensing authority.

It should be something along the lines of:

Sir/ Madam,

Please find enclosed my application for a fourth firearm license, a .22 rifle for target practice. This is application is made as per Sections 3 (1), 3(2) and 3 (3) of the Arms Act 1959. Please find enclosed along with my application a copy of my xyz rifle association/ shooting club membership card, a copy of the relevant sections of the Arms Act 1959, participation certificates for xyz competition held at abc city, letter of recommendation from xyz rifle association/ shooting club etc. etc.

The above is merely an indicative covering letter, am sure members here would be able to take it from here...

Cheers!
Abhijeet

Thanks Abhijeet, this is very useful.


best,

RP.

[penpusher]

Anyone trying to find a GO saying that Rifle club members are allowed to own one .22 rifle over and above the 3 gun limit ,will not be able to find one for the simple reason that there is none.

The Act itself is pretty clear on this.There is no limit on the number of .22 rifles for a club member.

[catfish]

Hi guys,
Just want to get in and say that a 4th firearm is a reality. Got mine ten days back and just purchased a brno 22LR in pretty good condition. The law is there but knowing the right people goes a long way. This goes for anything in our wonderfull country.

cheers

Catfish

[amit_sharma86]

Hi Catfish
Amit here.
Congrats.
Could you please post any pictures related to your fourth firearm.
Thank you very much.