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Re: Number of Weapons that a Civilian can Keep?

Post by cottage cheese » Sat Sep 15, 2007 9:52 am

Ya I like them small... I thought I'd go for a Bofors.. but the licensing people said its in service, thus PB. Anyway...my compound isn't too big :)

L39Mk2? naah.... I'll save 2.375Kilos without the sleighs... that would bring it down to a far more manageable 41Kilos... a big plus while out popping at ducks :)

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Re: Number of Weapons that a Civilian can Keep?

Post by james » Wed Sep 19, 2007 8:21 pm

Could you please clarify that 2 no .32 bore revolver and 1 dbbl is legal ,specially 2 handguns of same type and caliber. :?: James...

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Post by mundaire » Wed Sep 19, 2007 8:29 pm

james";p="27117 wrote: Could you please clarify that 2 no .32 bore revolver and 1 dbbl is legal ,specially 2 handguns of same type and caliber. :?: James...
That is correct! No where in the Arms Act, or Arms Rules is there any such limitation - so long as the total number of Arms licenses does not exceed 3 for the general public and 3+1 .22 rifle for members of shooting clubs. Additional relaxations are made for those who have achieved "renown shot" status, as explained by Shutzen above.

However, for every additional arms license you will still have to prove a valid "need" to the licensing authority... that provision remains the same...

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Number of firearm that a Civilian can Keep?

Post by sat » Wed Sep 19, 2007 9:57 pm

3+1 .22 rifle for members of shooting clubs
The authorithies in rajasthan are not aware of this rule about the 4th firearm being allowed, a 22 lr rifle for members of a shooting club.

Anyone has any notification of this ruling, will then pass it on to the District magistrate/Collector.

I have seen a license in Mumbai, where the person had 05 firearms. He was not a shooter, had not taken part in any competition. He had a rifle, shotgun, 22lr rifle, 45acp colt & 32 pistol. All with the relevants stamps & approval from the Commisioner of police office in Mumbai. Hard to beleive but true...

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Post by diskaon » Tue Dec 04, 2007 12:42 am

one more hypothetical situation...

What if you already have three guns and the inherit one more from a deceased relative?

how will the authorities react to wuch a situation? will you be denied someones last wish?
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Post by mundaire » Tue Dec 04, 2007 1:53 am

diskaon";p="32408 wrote:one more hypothetical situation...

What if you already have three guns and the inherit one more from a deceased relative?

how will the authorities react to wuch a situation? will you be denied someones last wish?
Sorry if it sounds crude, but no one's wishes, last or first are above the law... as stupid as the prevailing laws might be!! :roll:

The person inheriting the gun would either need to give up one of his existing 3 firearms in lieu of the inherited one he would like added on to his name OR he'd need to simply give up claim to the inherited gun - either letting another relative have it, or sell it...

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Indian arms act/ notification /.22 licence...

Post by james » Mon Apr 21, 2008 7:14 pm

I got my gun licence 4 months back , being active member of rifle club and as per law i am very much eligeble for 4th weapon as .22 rifle. To avoide all the hassels of moving papes from table to table ,I am interested in getting this .22 rifle directly added to my recently gun licence. The licence Issuing authority i.e DEPUTY COMMISSIONER had requested for details pertaining such provision in arms act or any such ruleing by supreme court or high court or any related notification or any one had got it through this way . On providing any such document would totally wave off all the complicated paper work as every thing was done for my gun licence 4 months back. Genuine help/advice is requested .REGARDS James......

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Re: Indian arms act/ notification /.22 licence...

Post by Risala » Mon Apr 21, 2008 7:45 pm

Rifle Club membership will not make the cut,got to be a member of NRAI for that.
AFAIK NRAI members are allowed to add a 4th weapon,the notification should be on their website,
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Post by james » Mon Apr 21, 2008 7:58 pm

Hi,sanjay ,thanks for the reply ,the catch under the situation and as i have heard from one of my friends in Punjab that if you had be issued licence and in very shot duration you apply for another licence, if the issuing authority is convinced then without all those paper movement hassels and refering your issued licence file he is empowred to issue next licence . I have no documents to support this and if in case you have some clue ,kindly help .James...
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Re: Indian arms act/ notification /.22 licence...

Post by Risala » Mon Apr 21, 2008 8:04 pm

Addition of weapon on your existing lic is the practice in Delhi,I presume the same is followed in other states too,it is at the discretion of the licencing authority upto 3 fire arms for a normal licensee.For a 4th I guess one would probably have to be a member of NRAI or a renowned shot.

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Re: Indian arms act/ notification /.22 licence...

Post by james » Mon Apr 21, 2008 8:12 pm

How do i go about proving this ,as this is not followed in my state any documentry evidence to support it . Sanjay what i can understand is that if you are a licence holder in Delhi ,you require no table to table movement and directly licencing authority on reffering old licence file issues the next one ,if he is convinced and enter it in the earlier licence .James

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The Fourth Firearm --- only .22 rifle?

Post by The Doc » Fri Oct 31, 2008 2:44 pm

Gentlemen,

I received my NRAI Life Membership card yesterday :) . Now I can consider buying a 4th firearm.

Here begins my dilemma---

I already own a .22 rifle, a 12 ga shotgun and a .32 cal revolver. I was thinking of buying the IOF 30.06 as my fourth firearm. I have been advised to sell my .22 rifle , buy a larger caliber rifle as my third firearm and then again buy a .22 rifle as my fourth firearm !!!!!! Now this sounds totally crazy :evil:

What I want to know is --

1. Does the fourth firearm have to be a .22 rifle?

2. Do I have to sell my .22 rifle as advised, and buy a larger caliber rifle before getting the permission to buy the fourth firearm?

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Re: The Fourth Firearm --- only .22 rifle?

Post by Risala » Fri Oct 31, 2008 2:54 pm

Logically you should be allowed a 3006,but technically it's upto the Licencing authority how they interpret the notification,suggest you meet the DM,good sense might just prevail and he may allow you to purchase the 06,it's well within his powers.

PS which shotty and revolver did you pick up :?:

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Re: The Fourth Firearm --- only .22 rifle?

Post by Anand » Tue Nov 04, 2008 12:54 pm

Hello,
The advice seems sound if you take it. I remember reading in the arms law that Rifle association members are exempt from the 3 gun limit only to the extent of a .22 rifle. It does not mention shotguns or other rifles or handguns.

My understanding is:
Ordinary Citizens : 3 NP Bore firearms or less in any combination of ML gun/Shotgun/Rifle/Revolver/Pistol
NRAI Members : 3 NP Bore firearms or less in any combination + 1 .22 Rifle only
Renownwed Shooters: 3 NP Bore firearms or less in any combination + 1 .22 Rifle only (as NRAI member) + upto 6 firearms
(2 in each category) total not to exceed 10 firearms.

In all cases above I am guessing there have been exceptions to the rule where the limit may have been exceeded. Not to discourage you from trying to drive sense into the DM, but he will only be looking to cover his behind in case of an inquiry or such.
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Post by The Doc » Thu Nov 06, 2008 10:04 am

Anand";p="58119 wrote:
NRAI Members : 3 NP Bore firearms or less in any combination + 1 .22 Rifle only
Does it have to be only a .22 rifle or can it be a .22 handgun ??

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