Regarding Importing Ammunition

[Vikram]

Dear Vikram,


Thank you for your reply. I think you got problem with understanding English. I clearly said that I can only import 15000 cartridges for .22 Rifle as I am a renowned shoter in that category. My other weapons also got 15000 cartridges each but for your knowledge a renowned shooter can only import cartridges with NRAI and DGFT permission for the event a person is a renowned shooter. Even if I am allowed to keep 15000 cartridges I cannot get permission from NRAI for importing .32 or .380 cartridges. My simple question was if I am travelling abroad and I get 500 or 1000 cartridges from Australia or anywhere in europe I am legally allowed to get more than 50 cartridges. If yes then please send me the notification.

Secondly, before writing such replies on forum please see what you are saying.

Hardeep,

If you could bear a bit more with my lack of English comprehension skills and help clarify the following.Is this what I am to understand?

1. You are a renowned shot in a .22 rifle/pistol discipline and have a 15000 quota which you can import.

2. You also have liecenses for two more handguns in the calibres .32 and .380ACP for which you have 15000 cartridge quotas for each and want to bring in the full quota limit in your personal baggage?

Thanks.

Best-
Vikram

[xl_target]

hardeepsinghbedi,
You have made several seemingly contradictory statements about your status.
Vikram is not the only one having problems understanding the true facts of your case.

I don't have a horse in this race but if you come to looking for advice, it would behoove you to be a little more polite, regardless of who you think you are.
If not, no one is going to bother to answer your questions.
Just some free advice, take it for what it's worth.

[only32owner]

Well I dont have that expertise to jump in the discurssions here.
But I truly , with XL here.

Regards.

[mundaire]

Hardeep if you are a renowned shot in 3P .22 rifle then how come you have a 15,000 round ammo quota on your other licenses for which you are obviously (as per your own admission) NOT a renowned shot? On what basis was your quota increased to 15,000 rounds for those licenses?

BTW if you are a renowned shot (in 3p .22 or for that matter in any other event) you should know that separate DGFT permission is no longer required for import

BTW, why was a "renowned shot" participating in an open sight rifle match in the recent Chandigarh state events?

Cheers!
Abhijeet

[sainikji]

Well to quote the esteemed member XL Target, "I don't have a horse in this race" which goes for the undersigned also, don't know why but the above replies by the members do give a feeling that some of them have taken offence to the post of hsbedi and hence hell bent to find out loop holes in his postings/statements WHEN the poor soul has just come to the Forum asking for the advice on a topic which was bothering him.

In my opinion, if i am allowed to take a guess though not against hsbedi but in his favour AND THAT TOO based on the advice freely given and available on this forum itself in different topics, it seems to be a case "where hsbedi has been granted licence for the weapons AND AND instead of mentioning/granting diff number of cartridges for each weapon, the licencing authority has just mentioned 15,000/- WHICH to the advantage of hsbedi translated in 15000 cartridges for each weapon allowed to him"

so simple to understand instead of trying to label Mr. Bedi a LIAR not directly but indirectly as sought to be done in earlier posts.

AND even if it is not so, why to bother to shake the credentials of another member,instead of giving advice as sought if available with any of the members to the query asked.

[hardeepsinghbedi]

Dear Sainikji,


Thank you for your reply and understanding the things properly. I think members here just like playing politics nothing else. members here want me to be polite and they dont look at them what they are writing. I dont have to explain anyone what I do or why I participate in Chd open sight events and how I got the quota of 15000 cartridges on my each weapon. I thought this is a good website to take advices but instead of getting proper replies people start people start asking silly questions. Mr. Abhijeet I just mentioned DGFT as an example as I imported my Walther KK 300 .22 rifle for your knowledge.

I thought this website is for giving advices and not to check anybody credentials. I just asked simple question that can I import more than 50 cartridges and if you have any notification please send me the link and I receive these silly replies. Mr. XL if you find my statements contradictory and face problems in understanding the true facts please read my previous mails properly. Now I feel I made a big mistake by becoming member on this site. If anybody got problem with me please donot reply to by questions.

Mr. Vikram in my previous email where you think I asked for 500 cartridges I clearly said that from my sources I came to know that if you have limit of 500 cartridges than I can bring 500 cartridges. I never said I have a limit of 500 cartridges. Please read my mail carefully.

[ruffian]

Well, given to the conditions here, in India, when, and by the time, one becomes a renowned shot he/she tries all their level best to get all the benefits associated with it. Whether its getting a new weapon imported or the ammo. And in the process one does all the homework after consulting with fellow or senior renowned shots and generally get all the technical , legal and procedural advice from them and don't look for members of any forum to share notifications, rather provide them. Generally we also look forward to renowned shots to throw light on aspects which are lesser known to us and what Mr. Bedi is talking is just the opposite.

[hardeepsinghbedi]

Dear Ruffian,


I think I made it very clear that I am asking about .32 and .380 cartridges which I can bring in luggage coming from abroad which has nothing to do with NRAI or with permission from NRAI or senior members. For your knowledge I have already consulted this with few top renowned and none of them got idea how to import cartridges which are not used in shooting (.380 Cartridges). Anyway I think I am wasting my time replying here. You take care Mr. Ruffian I am not going to ask any questions on this political website.

[Skyman]

Mr.Bedi - If you want info, ask politely and keep asking until you are satisfied.No one on this forum will get anything by being condescending toward you.Men like XL and Vikram are experienced gentlemen whom everyone looks up to, and they didn't get there by being political.

What people want to know is this - What is the limit of your .32 and .380 quota?

[hardeepsinghbedi]

Dear Skyman,


I cleared in my previous replies very clearly that my quota is 15000 each weapon. If you want me to be polite please see my previous questions and replies and also look to the replies sent by them.

[Risala]

Hardeep
Upto 50 cartirdges you can bring without paying any duty....anything above that (in reasonable limits) is at the discretion of the Customs...ie they might ask you to pay duty or they might just confiscate it.
HTH

[hardeepsinghbedi]

Thanks Sanjay for gving good advice. really appriciated.

[Safarigent]

They cant confiscate it.
If it is not above your one time limit of ammo and is not of a prohibited calibre.
You just pay excess duty above 50.
A friend did the same down south early this year.
However an RTI would be the best thing.

[mundaire]

Hardeep,

You are correct, it is none of my business what your license quota is or how you had it endorsed, whether or not you are a renowned shot, how you participated in an open sight rifle match in spite of being a renowned shot in 3p rifle something which is not allowed as per NRAI rules etc. in short I apologise for calling your bluff and pointing out your BS for what it is!

As to whether or not you wish to participate on this website, no one invited you here and after reading the tenor of your posts I can assure you that no one is going to lament your departure.

Your question was answered in the third post on the first page of this thread... try reading it again.

Cheers!
Abhijeet

[hardeepsinghbedi]

Dear Abhijeet,


Thank you for your reply. On one side you said its none of your business and on another side you are telling me NRAI rules. Till today I am not able to understand that members are playing a blame game or members just advice on the queries asked. I have gone through the third post it was never clearly mentioned about the issue. member recommended me to put application in RTI. After that I again sent same post so any other member got notification or knowledge about this issue.