4th firearm (22lr) on a licence....

[hardeepsinghbedi]

Dear Everyone,


Thanks for the reply. In Section 3 (3) of 1959 arms act it clearly says that fourth weapon can only be .22 rifle. Now I am getting as .12 bore DBBL as fourth weapon. Is that legal. I already have two .22 rifle earlier.

[Anand]

Section 3(2) refers to the limitation of 3 firearms for licensees and Section 3(3) refers to the exemption from
Section 3(2),specifically, for dealers, and members of rifle associations with regard to a .22 Rifle used for target practice.

You said you already own three firearms, and two of those are .22 rifles. Inclusion of a 12 bore gun is perfectly legal, so long as you had obtained at least one of your two .22 rifles based on NRAI membership. The sequence of obtaining the .22 Rifle is not mentioned at all in the law. If you got your license for the first or second .22 rifle based on your membership to the NRAI, then the Section 3(3) aspect of the law has already been satisfied. Now you are still eligible for the Section 3(2) part.

So whether you purchased a .22 rifle based on NRAI membership, in the beginning or at the end or in the middle, you are still limited to 3 firearms + one .22 rifle(based on a rifle association membership), that .22 rifle may be your first, second, third or fourth firearm.
I hope this makes sense. If the licensing Authorities are okay with it then you should have no problem.
Regards,
Anand

[hardeepsinghbedi]

De Anand,


Thank you for your reply. My both two .22 Rifles were not through NRAI membersip. They were just part of normal procedure in which person can keep three firearms. Now i can do one thing which is get fourth weapon as .12 bore DBBL gun so I hope that sholuld be legal.

Please also confirm I have 15000 cartidges on my arms licence. As the normal procedure where people have 50 cartidges they can keep 50 cartidges per weapon. In my case I am allowed to keep 15000 cartidges or I can keep 15000 cartidges X 4 weapons = 60,000 Cartidges. I was issued huge amount of cartidges as a sports shooter but in my licence they have done the entry saying that Amrs licencee is allowed to keep 15000 cartidges per annum (Sports Shooter). Please clearify this.

[goodboy_mentor]

Regardless of how you got the .22 rifle licenses in the past, as told earlier there is nothing illegal if you get the 4th firearm endorsed on your license.

Regarding cartridges, you can keep whatever number and type is mentioned on your license. If it is mentioned total 15,000 for all weapons then it means total 15,000 for all weapons. If it is separately mentioned 15,000 for each weapon, then it means exactly that.

[hardeepsinghbedi]

Thanks for the reply. On my licence it just says I am allowed to keep 15000 Cartidges per annum. There is no mention of 15000 cartidges for all weapons or I can keep how much cartidges at one time so according to me I can keep 15000 Cartidges per weapon. Please can you also send me the link where it clears that 25 or 50 cartidges is per weapon.

[goodboy_mentor]

Please do not assume things. If it is not clearly mentioned on your license, whether the quantity is for all weapons or for each weapon, it is better to get that clearly mentioned on your license for each weapon.

Regarding 50 cartridges per weapon thing, it does not have any force of law. It is just one illegal policy circulated by MHA. You can ignore it. If you search this website that "policy" has been discussed at number of places. It is also available on MHA website.

[winnie_the_pooh]

hardeepsinghbedi,

Re. four licensed firearms for a member of a rifle club,as long as one of the firearms is a .22 rifle,you will be covered.Re. the ammo limit,no need to seek a clarification.Infact you should NEVER seek a clarification. Depending upon the fellow dealing with the matter,there is the likelihood of the limit being reduced to 50/50 per firearm. Goodboy's guidance is more theoretical than practical.

[hardeepsinghbedi]

Dear Winnie,


Thank you for your reply. I just got increased my ammunition to 15000 from 50 cartridges as I am a renowned shooter. The only think which is hesitating me is I should keep total of 15000 cartridges or 15000 each weapon. The reason I am asking is I dont want to get in trouble in later stage. Every person got different opinion. some people say I can keep only 15000 cartridges of the weapon in which I am renowned shooter. Some people say I can keep total of 15000 cartridges of all weapons but total should not exceed 15000 in total. Some says I can keep 15000 each weapon. On my Licence it only says I am allowed to keep 15000 cartridges per annum nothing else. Somebody advised me I should check first before buying more than 15000 cartridges because its not the normal practice where person can keep 50 cartridges maximum.

[winnie_the_pooh]

If you got the ammo quota increased because you are a renowned shot,technically,it is for the firearm you use in competition. ie if you shoot trap then it should be for 12 ga .However,since you have other firearms on the license and since it does not say for 'each' it would be 15,000 total.So,when you buy ammo. for other firearms,it would eat into your quota for the shotgun.

[hardeepsinghbedi]

Dear Winnie,


Thanks for the reply. Please tell me if I ask Arms licensing authority to enter per weapon word after 15000 cartridges then I am legal to keep 15000 per weapon.

[mundaire]

I just got increased my ammunition to 15000 from 50 cartridges as I am a renowned shooter.

If you are a "renown shot" , to the best of my knowledge you are eligible for two additional licenses for the discipline(s) in which you qualified - this would be over and above the usual limit of 3+1 licenses. This is via the same Govt. notification which allows renown shots to import firearms & ammo, please look it up.

Cheers!
Abhijeet

[winnie_the_pooh]

If you are a "renown shot" , to the best of my knowledge you are eligible for two additional licenses for the discipline(s) in which you qualified - this would be over and above the usual limit of 3+1 licenses. This is via the same Govt. notification which allows renown shots to import firearms & ammo, please look it up.

Make that 4 in each discipline over and above 3+1 subject to a max. of 10.

[hardeepsinghbedi]

Dear Vinnie,


Thanks for the reply. I have got by DBBL entered on my arms licence as fourth weapon and also got the renowned shooter mentioned on my licence.