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Hi
Has anyone used air revolvers like thishttp://www.airgundepot.com/5864.html
They are very cool looking but are they a good investment from a target practice point of view ?
Thanks
Regards
Gaurav

Gaurav,

The S&W 586 is considered to be great for plinking. The balance and ease of handling is also very good. But if you are thinking about 10m target shooting, no way would it come close to the target models.

Thanks that eas exactly what i was looking for in the answer you have been a great help

Hi Gaurav,
I checked out some guns for target/self defense on topairgun.com & few other sites.
As a mechanical engineer I was more interested in the power of the gun in Joules/footpounds.
Mere velocity in fps or m/s is meaningless without knowing the weight of the pellet it can fire at that velocity as the power factor of the Gun is a function of the spring constant.

Hi Friends,
air revolvers using Co2 are no doubt best for plinking. But if anyone wants to have real fun and some more power try to get hold of British or Korean revolvers that use compressed air filled in individual cartridges on the tip of which sit the pellets. Each cartridge has to be filled by a handpumps (the more you pump the more power you get !!) and they resemble .357 or .44 magnum brass with 177 pellets secured at the tip.
My momory fails me or else I could have named the companies (did some research at that time) but I can assure you that I had real fun while using a British revolver at the range some ten years ago. A member brought it. The weapon was made of blued steel (no alloy), had the heft and feel of the SW big bore it resembled. Loading the cartridges, tinkering with the rubber washers etc was time consuming and tiring. But on the whole the experience with the air revolver was rewarding. After pumping air into the six cartridges and seating the pellets it was just like using a firearm, even extracting the empties !! (cylinders i.e.)
I am sorry I could not be more helpful at this point. But I am sure there are veterans in IFG who can speak on these.
Regards
TC.
PS: during research I even found lever action rifles that use similar cartridges and load an fire just like the winchester 44-40 !! LOL

TC wrote:Hi Friends,
air revolvers using Co2 are no doubt best for plinking. But if anyone wants to have real fun and some more power try to get hold of British or Korean revolvers that use compressed air filled in individual cartridges on the tip of which sit the pellets. Each cartridge has to be filled by a handpumps (the more you pump the more power you get !!) and they resemble .357 or .44 magnum brass with 177 pellets secured at the tip.
My momory fails me or else I could have named the companies (did some research at that time) but I can assure you that I had real fun while using a British revolver at the range some ten years ago. A member brought it. The weapon was made of blued steel (no alloy), had the heft and feel of the SW big bore it resembled. Loading the cartridges, tinkering with the rubber washers etc was time consuming and tiring. But on the whole the experience with the air revolver was rewarding. After pumping air into the six cartridges and seating the pellets it was just like using a firearm, even extracting the empties !! (cylinders i.e.)
I am sorry I could not be more helpful at this point. But I am sure there are veterans in IFG who can speak on these.
Regards
TC.
PS: during research I even found lever action rifles that use similar cartridges and load an fire just like the winchester 44-40 !! LOL

Thanks a lot TC.
I please request knowledgable IFG Veterans to throw more light on the subject.

TC wrote:Hi Friends,
air revolvers using Co2 are no doubt best for plinking. But if anyone wants to have real fun and some more power try to get hold of British or Korean revolvers that use compressed air filled in individual cartridges on the tip of which sit the pellets. Each cartridge has to be filled by a handpumps (the more you pump the more power you get !!) and they resemble .357 or .44 magnum brass with 177 pellets secured at the tip.
My momory fails me or else I could have named the companies (did some research at that time) but I can assure you that I had real fun while using a British revolver at the range some ten years ago. A member brought it. The weapon was made of blued steel (no alloy), had the heft and feel of the SW big bore it resembled. Loading the cartridges, tinkering with the rubber washers etc was time consuming and tiring. But on the whole the experience with the air revolver was rewarding. After pumping air into the six cartridges and seating the pellets it was just like using a firearm, even extracting the empties !! (cylinders i.e.)
I am sorry I could not be more helpful at this point. But I am sure there are veterans in IFG who can speak on these.
Regards
TC.
PS: during research I even found lever action rifles that use similar cartridges and load an fire just like the winchester 44-40 !! LOL

try Google for brocock, I doubt they r still in production

PRITAM PATEL wrote:

TC wrote:Hi Friends,
air revolvers using Co2 are no doubt best for plinking. But if anyone wants to have real fun and some more power try to get hold of British or Korean revolvers that use compressed air filled in individual cartridges on the tip of which sit the pellets. Each cartridge has to be filled by a handpumps (the more you pump the more power you get !!) and they resemble .357 or .44 magnum brass with 177 pellets secured at the tip.
My momory fails me or else I could have named the companies (did some research at that time) but I can assure you that I had real fun while using a British revolver at the range some ten years ago. A member brought it. The weapon was made of blued steel (no alloy), had the heft and feel of the SW big bore it resembled. Loading the cartridges, tinkering with the rubber washers etc was time consuming and tiring. But on the whole the experience with the air revolver was rewarding. After pumping air into the six cartridges and seating the pellets it was just like using a firearm, even extracting the empties !! (cylinders i.e.)
I am sorry I could not be more helpful at this point. But I am sure there are veterans in IFG who can speak on these.
Regards
TC.
PS: during research I even found lever action rifles that use similar cartridges and load an fire just like the winchester 44-40 !! LOL

try Google for brocock, I doubt they r still in production

Hi All,
This is what I got from Yahoo Answers when I posted Q for most powerful Air Pistol & Rifle that could be used for self defense.Can somebody throw some more light ? .

For Pistols, the Evanix Hunting Master AR6 is probably the most powerful I know of. Good for plinking and small critters, but you're fooling yourself if you think any air pistol will do you a lick of good for self-defense. The AR6 is a .22 caliber, the largest pistol caliber manufactured for air guns without going custom, and you simply cannot pack the needed mechanism and powerplant into a pistol. It will penetrate skin, but penetration does not equal stopping power.

The only known stock air gun that would be any good against a human adversary is the rifle Korean-made Shin Sung Dragon Slayer. It is a .50 PCP designed for hunting and puts out about 192 foot-pounds of energy. That's pretty much the max for airguns. With the right ammo and proper maintenance, it will put a a nice big hole in somebody, but it will still never reach the power of any powder firearm.
Source(s):
http://www.pyramydair.com/p/career-drago…

Air pistol for self-defence? try http://www.indiansforguns.com/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=5428 should give you some perspective...

HTH

Cheers!
Abhijeet

mundaire wrote:Air pistol for self-defence? try http://www.indiansforguns.com/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=5428 should give you some perspective...

HTH

Cheers!
Abhijeet

An Air Pistol with 6fpe/8.15Joules Power is certainly not a toy.
Hence the precautions for handling it.
I feel if used dexterously it could also be a deterrent in case of a mugging or robbery attempt.
I invite members to comment on this.

THERE ARE SOME OTHER AIR GUNS MORE POWERFUL THAN DRAGON SLAYER LIKE SAM YANG 909 BIG BORE 45 CAL , QUACKEN BUSH BANDIT50 CAL AND A RAEL BEAUTYFUL GUN BY BEAUMONT CLASSIC IN 32 CAL AND ANOTHER IN 50 CAL WITH OVER 500FPE WITH 350 GRAIN PALLET.
BY THE WAY ANY ONE WITH A DRAGON SLAYER FOR SALE?

Nilkanth wrote:

mundaire wrote:Air pistol for self-defence? try http://www.indiansforguns.com/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=5428 should give you some perspective...

HTH

Cheers!
Abhijeet

An Air Pistol with 6fpe/8.15Joules Power is certainly not a toy.
Hence the precautions for handling it.
I feel if used dexterously it could also be a deterrent in case of a mugging or robbery attempt.
I invite members to comment on this.

Please don't delude yourself.
If you are up against a determined attacker, an airgun will not stop or even deter him.
He will just be all the more pissed off when he gets a hold of you.

xl_target wrote:If you are up against a determined attacker, an airgun will not stop or even deter him.
He will just be all the more pissed off when he gets a hold of you.

too big a risk, especially if they hold a firearm themselves. by the current scene here, it is easily possible for anti-social elements to get hands on a fire-arm than a law abiding Indian!.. think atleast equal firepower on the other side and calculate conquences before pointing a gun at attacker!

Thomas

Please take a look here http://www.me-sportwaffen.de/dispitemgr ... p?g_no=108
They had to stop making these in England as some wiseguys tried to convert them to shoot cartridges.

I will ban the next retard who talks about using an air pistol for self defense under the reckless endangerment, sub clause Darwinian award rule of IFG.

For the sake of the general public I wouldn't want my worst enemy to point an air pistol at a thug who is pointing a .315 katta at you. Firstly cause he is going to pull the trigger and secondly cause your last memory will be of the thug picking up your pistol and thanking you for importing it for him.


Regards,

Dev

-- Thu Sep 09, 2010 11:54 am --

bikky123 wrote:THERE ARE SOME OTHER AIR GUNS MORE POWERFUL THAN DRAGON SLAYER LIKE SAM YANG 909 BIG BORE 45 CAL , QUACKEN BUSH BANDIT50 CAL AND A RAEL BEAUTYFUL GUN BY BEAUMONT CLASSIC IN 32 CAL AND ANOTHER IN 50 CAL WITH OVER 500FPE WITH 350 GRAIN PALLET.
BY THE WAY ANY ONE WITH A DRAGON SLAYER FOR SALE?

BY THE FRIGGING WAY TRY USING LOWER CASE, this is considered shouting.

Dev