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Need help on NOC from Police
Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 7:45 pm
by deepakvarde
I was told by the supritendent of postal customs that there is a notification which states that .177 calibre air rifles do not need NOC from the police and that, I should find out more about it, get a copy of the same, and free my rifle.
Fellow forumites, please guide me on this. Is there any notification of this sort? if yes, how do I get a copy of the same?
Regards,
Deepak
Re: Need help on NOC from Police
Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 9:00 pm
by tirths
deepakvarde wrote:I was told by the supritendent of postal customs that there is a notification which states that .177 calibre air rifles do not need NOC from the police and that, I should find out more about it, get a copy of the same, and free my rifle.
Fellow forumites, please guide me on this. Is there any notification of this sort? if yes, how do I get a copy of the same?
Regards,
Deepak
May be a little search in the forum will help. Remember, two job customs are doing.
1. confirming the good they are letting them in based on guidelines made by DGFT (dept of finance)
2. Collecting duty based on guidelines made by dept. of commerce.
Think logically, you will get your answer.
Re: Need help on NOC from Police
Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 9:04 pm
by fantumfan2003
Deepak,
Its attached here for your benefit.
What have you imported and how ?
All the best. Be nice and polite to them and have patience.
That will ensure a smooth ride.
M.
deepakvarde wrote:I was told by the supritendent of postal customs that there is a notification which states that .177 calibre air rifles do not need NOC from the police and that, I should find out more about it, get a copy of the same, and free my rifle.
Fellow forumites, please guide me on this. Is there any notification of this sort? if yes, how do I get a copy of the same?
Regards,
Deepak
Re: Need help on NOC from Police
Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 11:09 pm
by deepakvarde
Dear Tirths & fantumfan,
I spend over 4 hrs there having all the documents with me including the ones fantumfan has posted. Showed my rifle association letter, invoice ... everything. Even showed him .177 written on the barrel. I added that I have got some .177 pellets with me and I could put it in and show you. Nothing else would go in that muzzel except the lead pellet. A pellet is different from a .32 catridge.
He tells me, he has no authority to determine whether it is .177 or anything else. A police NOC or equavalent is required to release the rifle. I asked him what am I to do next? then he made a few calls here and there. Then tells me that he has been informed that there is some notification which says that .177 calibre air rifle dosent need police verification. I should get him a copy of that notification and he'll release it.
Next, He tells me to check with my rifle association for the notification. I called them. Our guy there is good for nothing. He tells me, if there is any notification, they should have it more than the association.
I've called a GAMO Whisper .177 rifle from Natchez. And it looked damn pretty. I felt even bad when I saw her and couldnt get her home today.
Regards,
Deepak
Re: Need help on NOC from Police
Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 11:26 pm
by tirths
deepakvarde wrote:Dear Tirths & fantumfan,
I spend over 4 hrs there having all the documents with me including the ones fantumfan has posted. Showed my rifle association letter, invoice ... everything. Even showed him .177 written on the barrel. I added that I have got some .177 pellets with me and I could put it in and show you. Nothing else would go in that muzzel except the lead pellet. A pellet is different from a .32 catridge.
He tells me, he has no authority to determine whether it is .177 or anything else. A police NOC or equavalent is required to release the rifle. I asked him what am I to do next? then he made a few calls here and there. Then tells me that he has been informed that there is some notification which says that .177 calibre air rifle dosent need police verification. I should get him a copy of that notification and he'll release it.
Next, He tells me to check with my rifle association for the notification. I called them. Our guy there is good for nothing. He tells me, if there is any notification, they should have it more than the association.
I've called a GAMO Whisper .177 rifle from Natchez. And it looked damn pretty. I felt even bad when I saw her and couldnt get her home today.
Regards,
Deepak
Deepak, there is no notification as such.
And the he is right. He is not authrized to confirm that it is indeed an airgun with said caliber. You have two way to go now. Get all necessary document printed about whisper. Picture, specs, invoice, pricetag also Natchez link and if possible print the online page. Write an application based on notification and submit them on the table as well as speed post.
Second option could be, have your gun verified by police personal. But stick to the first one. Wishper may fail deal wood test so better not to get it verified by forensic
Good Luck!
Re: Need help on NOC from Police
Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 11:33 pm
by deepakvarde
Dear Tirths,
They have a pc in their office which has internet connectivity. One of his officers checked the price, natches website etc. I showed it to him myself. This officer was very friendly and said that if his boss (the person causing trouble) wouldnt be there, he would have cleared it by seeing the letter from rifle association.
I think, I'll take your advice on the first option. I was a bit hesitant on the police NOC for the deal wood test as this baby boasts of 1200 fps.
Regards,
Deepak
Re: Need help on NOC from Police
Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 11:41 am
by pkjeetesh
Deepak....even though I do not have any experience importing air rifles...yet, I advise you to be patient and put things across to the babus in a very polite and meaningful manner.....it may take several visits to them...better...you will learn....meet more people...what they are asking for does not seem to be too unreasonable...if there is no way out then do try taking a cop over to this place to confirm that it is not a firearm...(but not before atleast another senior/experienced airgunner on this forum advises you on this) ...eventually you will get the rifle...it is only a matter of time.....
Re: Need help on NOC from Police
Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 12:49 pm
by deepakvarde
Thank you pkjeetesh,
Your message is indeed consoling, but after having seen the gun out of the box and touching it, my patience levels are just spurting out. I hope you understand what I am saying. I visited 3 police stations in and around the APSO requesting them to just come and confirm that its an air rifle and not a 3006 or similar which needs live rounds.
All of them used the hindi movie technique of "that is not in our jurisdication" go to that (next) police station, they'll surely be able to help.
So ..... this is where I am.
Regards,
Deepak
Re: Need help on NOC from Police
Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 4:21 pm
by Big Daddy
The simple solution is this. Take a copy of the .177 import notification you have, go to your local police station and request the officer in charge to acknowledge it with a stamp. He will write a note saying that the .177 can be brought in. Ensure that it is stamped. Might ask you for a few hundred bucks. Be ready to deal with that. This should let your baby in.
Re: Need help on NOC from Police
Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 1:18 am
by deepakvarde
Friends,
I've got a copy of the so called NOC with these people tend to accept. It actually is the letter from the Commissioner's office stating that, .177 calibre dosent require a lisence.
If anybody wants a copy I could mail one.
Regards,
Deepak
Re: Need help on NOC from Police
Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 7:14 am
by pkjeetesh
deepakvarde wrote:Friends,
I've got a copy of the so called NOC with these people tend to accept. It actually is the letter from the Commissioner's office stating that, .177 calibre dosent require a lisence.
If anybody wants a copy I could mail one.
Regards,
Deepak
Fantastic....you see...another development, more experience for you...did you get the gun...please give me/us a copy...you can check PM ...
Re: Need help on NOC from Police
Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 10:49 am
by Big Daddy
Perseverance prevails !
Re: Need help on NOC from Police
Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 4:11 pm
by pkjeetesh
Re: Need help on NOC from Police
Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 8:32 pm
by deepakvarde
I got the gun. You can see the pic on page 30 of import via courier post.