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pellets
Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 10:58 pm
by RWS shooter
you have a variety of grain weights in both .177 and in .22 caliber
.177 has from 5,6.7,8,9,10, grain maybe more or less
.22 has anywhere from 10 to 20 plus grain weighted pellets
did not put the TRICK pellets into play since they are a Magic pellet that lets you BELIEVE you shoot 1,000 FPS with a Diana model 34 or a Gamo
let's put the real brand of pellets to the test but you decide which are the real ones
GAMO
RWS
JSB
Crosman
Daisy
your brand!!!
give me #'s and distance with CTC with the pellet and the air gun
thanls
Warren
and remember "it's 30% the air gun and 70% the shooter"
-- Mon Aug 10, 2009 4:23 pm --
16 people have seen this post but none have replied, WHY??
I am the original poster and live in Tampa, Florida but find that this forum has some good shooters and some good information not just for me but for this forum
your contributions are highly accepted and appreciated
warren
Re: pellets
Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 6:37 am
by RWS shooter
and another
I am still waiting for a reply and someone will do it, even if I have to wait forever
someone and it will be a special someone will answer to the original question, in the meantime I WAIT and wait
warren
Re: pellets
Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 11:47 am
by pkjeetesh
Dear Warren....pl have a look at the link below...Rifle - RWS Panther31,Caliber - .177, distance - 80m, pellet - GSmith flat head (local),..weight - 8.179gr, velocity 896fps..tried with 7.87gr GAMO Pro magnum, the results were disastrous...cannot meet your requirement/ questions in full...will do so at a later date once the gun settles in and with some reputed brand pellets...
http://www.indiansforguns.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=5618
Re: pellets
Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 12:15 pm
by dev
RWS shooter wrote:
and another
I am still waiting for a reply and someone will do it, even if I have to wait forever
someone and it will be a special someone will answer to the original question, in the meantime I WAIT and wait
warren
The reason why you won't get a reply in this forum is that we don't get the pellets that you have mentioned freely. .177 match pellets are used mostly by those who are into shooting ISSF style matches. They will normally use H&N 7 grain or 7.5 or whatever grain boxes available with the nra. Few would have shot the other weight-ages. I have shot a box or so of Crosman Premier HP in 15.3 grains or so but I don't have any ctc comparisons for you as the pellets are very hard to come by and rather expensive for us to acquire.
They are a lot of guys who shoot H&N field target trophy in .22 but I doubt that they will waste them doing ctc measurements when there are serious pests, field target matches calling. Apologies for being such a wet blanket but foreign pellets are a pain to acquire for most of us.
Regards,
Dev
Re: pellets
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 5:20 am
by RWS shooter
PK:
I understand now what you mean between what we can buy here in the USA and what you buy in India, real difference in culture naening
here in the USA we can PLINK at paper or hunt feathers or fur, an example;
we have some species of animals that are considered PESTS, non originating species that do not belong to the USA, they are imported from other countries and have reproduced themselves by the THOUSANDS eradicating the species that are native to different areas in the USA
Iguanas in the Florida
Starligs in the norteast
Snakes in the south
Monkeys (Patas and other ones) in the south
Red squirrel, all over the USA
and other more that are not Nartive to the USA and are considered a PEST, which means SHOOT to KILL if you find then in your area, now remember the mentality in the USA is to hunt and not the same as in India
the Iguanas will eat the eggs of native birds in the USA (all the eggs) without distinguishing between breed, the monkey's are not native to the USA and where brought here for experiments but as intelligent as they are the escaped and are causing a BIG problem for the farmers
Snakes like the Python are not native and are brought to this country as Pet's but after they grow to 14 feet long they are released in the wild and they multiplicate by a ratio of 2 to 100 in a year
the red squirrel has the ability to eat the fruit while it is not ripe and leaves the native ones waiting for the fruit to ripe and when it does not happen they die
understand the ecosystem and the hunters, they bring a balance
warren
PS: PK glad to find you
-- Mon Aug 31, 2009 7:54 pm --
PK:
which pellets would you consider the best for you either in .177 or .22 cal.
it would be my pleasure to buy then and send them to you for FREE but you would have to post your results in the Forum, meaning this one and the Dianawerks one
are you GAME???
warren
Re: pellets
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 3:32 pm
by pkjeetesh
Game! Warren...but we have some funny laws here ....the pellets would be confiscated by customs.....So I think its game OVER already
......I would love to shoot the RWS/JSBs or CPs in either caliber.....the gun of course would be RWS only....
Re: pellets
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 11:24 pm
by fantumfan2003
Warren,
Welcome.
Currently a minor technicality in the rules prevent us (registered air rifle shooters) from importing pellets directly. Its a matter of a couple of months before we will start getting our pellet imports freely.
When that happens, I'd love to get my self a box of lite and heavy Crosman Premiers
Your post says "your brand", In this case, as "our brand" we use two local brands called Gsmith and Mastershot (flat heads and round heads, roughly 8 and 8.5 grains respectively) and they both are very accurate in all my guns.
Diana air rifles seem to be a common point between you, me, PKJeetesh and several members here. I have a Diana 35 (1968 vintage) and a Diana 24 (1980s vintage).
I also like the fabulous Crosman air guns from the States and have a 2100, custom 1377C from Mac1, SSP250 and a 357. All my air guns are .177. They are very good value for money and I have now started customizing them. I am also setting up our first Field Target Association here (
http://mfta.in)
Indeed all foreign air rifles are difficult to get here and very expensive. Except the 357, I have paid an average of US $300 for each of my air guns. But hey no regrets, enjoy them all.
In our country there is a ban on hunting, only Rats and Crows can be hunted and are considered pests. I must say I liked your view on hunting and your data was very informative.
Off topic, since you mentioned pythons, I am always disturbed by the fact that some states in the US allow snakes as pets and there have been fatal incidents involving pythons and their owners or their family, which is very sad.
Enjoy your stay here. And do share more about your guns.
fantumfan2003
Re: pellets
Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:43 pm
by RWS shooter
PK and Fantum:
It is with a high degree of pleasure that I can communicate with all of you, the time will come when we will also be restricted to the power on our air rifles in the USA
and now to my next purchase in the air rifle category; the Benjamin 392 in .22 cal., with 6 pumps it will deliver 600 FPS and deadly accurate
your prices in India are way more than here in the USA but this Benjamin is only $135.00 and reliable up to 40 yards with iron sights, just a compressed air in the receiver VS> the spring power with the double recoil
fantumfan:
the crows are a highly intelligent animal, as an example I had one at 20 yards sighted and fired a pellet from a TX200 (Air Arms) air rifle and I missed, don't ask me how I missed I just missed, that crow returns to my house but he stays 40 yards away
and I will tell you they caught a Python snake in South Florida that weighted 340 pounds, 18 feet long just this week
by the way; they transfered 12 Pata monkeys from Puerto Rico to Florida, they were kept in a island with a mout that had 30 yards of water all around and on the 3'rd day ALL of them escaped, they swam out of that island, it took the Florida wild life Department 3 months to catch 10 of tem the other 2 where shot
PK:
I have found that the Gamo Hunter pellets 15.8 gr. for the price is a bargain in .22 cal, 500 each for $4.90 of couse that is what they cost here in the USA, good for shooting targets in paper
anytime one of you has the chance to come to Florida in the USA you are welcome in my house or you might call me at 813-831-0143 but if not possible E-Mail me your telephone # and I will call you
warren
Re: pellets
Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 11:56 am
by jashwantsinh
I am a member of Rifle club and have been using compressed Air-pistol of IHP since last a month,
I have been flat head pellets availble in plactic square box, But, the IHP officical s said that i must use H & N
only or better results.can any onr suggest from where i should buy these pellets, or which
pellets are mor suitable to this Air-pistol..Any address/contact number please any one can give.
Re: pellets
Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 7:14 pm
by RWS shooter
here you go:
H&N Finale Match .177 Cal, 7.6 Grains, Wadcutter, 500ct...
H&N Finale Match .177 Cal, 8.1 Grains, Wadcutter, 500ct...
all are $18.00 from Pyramyd Air from the USA but you can find them in Europe also, don't know how you would import them to India
these pellets are hand picked and you pay for this service
warren
Re: pellets
Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 12:00 pm
by dev
magnashot wrote:Hi All.
Now it is MAGNASHOT who Had launched it exclusive range of AIR PELLETS IN INDIAN MARKET.
WE HAD TRTIED TO FULLFILL THE REQUIREMENT OF THE PEOPLE WHO WANT TO USE IMPORTED AIR PELLET.
OUR PRODUCT IS NOT LESSER THAN THE IMPORTED ONE AND AS FAR AS THE PRICES ARE CONCERN IT WILL BE VERY ECNOMICAL COMPARE TO IMPORTED.
ANY ONE REQUIRE PLEASE CONTACT.
XXXXXXXXX.
XXXXXXXX.
Welcome magnashot. A lot of pellet makers have made similar claims without any basis whatsoever. I have atleast ten such packs manufactured by a Moradabad manufacturer. All have lines of lead along the seams of the pellets and are erratic from pellet to pellet. If your pellets are superior please make a seperate post with pictures and price details. You must also stop using all caps. Do not put your phone number on a public forum. Please do not repeat this in the future.
Regards,
Dev
Re: pellets
Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 7:44 pm
by RWS shooter
I don't understand "Why" would someone buy a quality air rifle and shoot unexpensive pellets??? I do understand shooting some low quality in order to break down a new air rifle
a good air rifle is not the same when brand new versus one that has been shot 1,000 times by then it settles down and you have a complete different air rifle with a smooth firing cycle
please try to use the right pellet for that air rifle
I also understand your community does not have the same options we have in the USA and the prices are way different, easy for me to say buy the best
I find the Gamo Hunter pellets made in Spain with 15.3 gr. a good buy for the money when shooting paper targets' in .22 cal. but for precision shooting;
JSB, RWS, H&N, are far superior
respectably submitted for your opinions
warren
Re: pellets
Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 11:46 pm
by pkjeetesh
....
a friend of mine who is neither a shooter nor an enthusiast once told me that I was wasting my time with sub standard pellets plus ruining the gun ...ever since I had been going easy on the guns...I will be getting my state rifle membership in month's time...then I will have access to quality pellets....
meantime...got a tin of 200nos H&N DIABOLO pellets and a box of 100nos RWS Meister-Kugeln...7.09 and 7.71gr respectively for INR900...ie..$20!..approx...the quality is amazing....well worth the money...only did a chrony test...waiting to lay my hands on a few JSBs and CPs before I can perform any accuracy tests...
tell me Warren...at what distance do you want the target to be placed and what shooting position shall I assume...
and thank you very much for the invitation....that was very nice of you...do you have any plans to visit India...You are welcome to stay at my place.....Manish would be happy too...God willing, we shall meet someday...right now im asking God only pellets....
Re: pellets
Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 1:49 am
by RWS shooter
Don't ask God for the impossible PK , he can do this and more
ask yourself for the possible, can you do this??? without the help of any GOD's
the target should be placed beteen 20 and 40 yards with an air rifle, with open sights or a scoped air rifle, diferent POI but the iron sights do not lie
Tell you WHAT, you might and probably outsoot ,me with the Benjamin M392 against the RWS Model 34 in .22 cal .
come on down here and find out
and bring Manish with you
warren
Re: pellets
Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 7:38 pm
by Amaresh
Friends which brand of pellets in .22 calibre are the lightest in weight and available in Mumbai.If possible their approx weight in grains please.
Regards,
Amaresh.