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Air Shot gun

Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 9:21 pm
by kanwar76
I was just browsing cabela's and look what I’ve found. A airshot gun which takes no:9 lead shot filled shells and according to the review its a good flying bird tool (if the reviewer know what he is talking about). Something for us gun starved people with no shotgun licenses. It can be converted to shoot .22 pellets also with the help on an adapter so does that means that it will be having rifled barrel :? . Price of the gun is okay but ammo looks a bit expensive but if it can be reloaded again then its okay. I don't know if anybody’ve used it yet but would love to read a few reviews.

But just thinking on a different note I wonder how customs guys will react to a box full of what seams like shotgun cartridges..

Here the link to cabelas http://www.cabelas.com/hprod-1/0040376.shtml

Inder

Re: Air Shot gun

Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 5:40 am
by Grumpy
Ideal for shooting Sparrows at 10 yards perhaps. .22 rimfire shotshells - which are loaded with No 11 shot - are pretty hopeless so how good is this going to be ? A couple of grammes of No 9s at 600fps isn`t going to compare with an ounce plus of shot at 1150-1450fps.

Re: Air Shot gun

Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 8:06 am
by mehulkamdar
Inder,

The gun in question is available cheaper from Gamo through their NRA membership program and I'd be happy to order it for you if you want me to. In the past, my friends and I have taken empty shotshells to India on several occasions with no trouble at all - on one occasion while returning from Moscow I had a whole suitcase full of them for a friend. Never reloaded myself, so I had little use other than to give them to people who had use for them. There never was a problem.

That said, as Grumpy points out, low power may be a problem to look at though the gun itself may be designed for quietly ridding gardens of pests and little else because virtually every city in the US bans the discharge of firearms within city limits.

Just check out www.gamousa.com and look under the NRA member discounts for various guns. If I remember right, there was also an Indonesian or Filipino company that made somthing very similar to this Gamo product in years past. I have never seen or shot one of them though.

Cheers,

Mehul

Re: Air Shot gun

Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 9:39 am
by Grumpy
One of the American air rifle manufacturers used to offer an air-shotgun....Crosman I`m pretty sure. Was reckoned to be `interesting` but of little use outside a small garden. Looked great though - more like a real shotgun.
Sorry to be such a killjoy but the difference between a shotgun proper and an air shotgun is likely to be far greater than the difference between say, a .22 lr and a .22 air rifle. A .22 air rifle is going to be a lot more useful to you - and more effective.
- And anyway, what have you got against the Sparrows in your back garden ?

Re: Air Shot gun

Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 8:44 pm
by kanwar76
Hi Mehul, Grumpy

I am not planning to buy his gun. I was a bit curious after reading the review at Cabelas but I had my doubt that’s why I posted it here. Just wanted views of you experts :) . I think this gun can only be a ratting tool. Thanks for the offer Mehul but if i get something from US it will be a decent air gun like TX200 or Prosport nothing less.

Inder

Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 2:27 am
by conty1
Here's a Video review I found... looks impressive!

http://airgundepot.com/gaviexshvire.html

Re: Air Shot gun

Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 6:19 pm
by Pran
good one, conty.
the Viper express sounds good considering Indian arms laws but, is a little too expensive.for $200 we could pick up a shaktimaan double barrel 12g here.
btw, I did find the adapter(at the breach) interesting.could an adapter like that be used to shoot a .22 centerfire on a 12g??
Pran

Re: Air Shot gun

Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 9:38 pm
by Grumpy
There are commercially available adaptors that allow the use of sub-gauge calibres in shotguns - ie a .410 shell in a 12-Bore - including ones that allow the use of a .22lr in shotguns.

Re: Air Shot gun

Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 9:51 pm
by Mack The Knife
including ones that allow the use of a .22lr in shotguns.
Grumpy,

Does that mean that the bore centre of the conversion unit will be slightly off-centre with respect to the centre of the shotgun bore?

Mack The Knife

Re: Air Shot gun

Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 9:55 pm
by Pran
grumpy,
are they all like the one in the video clip?
pran

Re: Air Shot gun

Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 11:02 pm
by Grumpy
Good question Mack The Knife. The .22 lr converters are slightly off-centre of- course because the firing pin has to hit the rim of the cartridge, not the centre. Doesn`t matter because the .22 bullet doesn`t use the shotgun barrel ( obviously ) and the converters have a short rifled barrel. The sub-gauge shotgun converters are centred as per normal and use the original barrel.
Pran, these converters are similar to that air shotgun converter but obviously intended for use in full-bore shotguns so are a different size and fit. The air-shotgun converters are much more cheaply made as they don`t have to handle the pressures involved with a .22lr.

Re: Air Shot gun

Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 1:30 am
by kanwar76
Pran";p="7125 wrote:good one, conty.
the Viper express sounds good considering Indian arms laws but, is a little too expensive.for $200 we could pick up a shaktimaan double barrel 12g here.
btw, I did find the adapter(at the breach) interesting.could an adapter like that be used to shoot a .22 centerfire on a 12g??
Pran

Pran,

For an airgun its pretty cheap. Air arms starts from $548 in US and HW around $450. So as a half decent gun comparing to AA and HW its priced APT and talking about prices of Airguns in INDIA. Nothing costs less than 30K in INDIA.

How much Shaktiman is costing right now? I don't think its around 9K is it?

-Inder

Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 8:06 am
by Pran
kanwar76";p="7167 wrote:
Pran";p="7125 wrote:good one, conty.
the Viper express sounds good considering Indian arms laws but, is a little too expensive.for $200 we could pick up a shaktimaan double barrel 12g here.
btw, I did find the adapter(at the breach) interesting.could an adapter like that be used to shoot a .22 centerfire on a 12g??
Pran


Pran,

For an airgun its pretty cheap. Air arms starts from $548 in US and HW around $450. So as a half decent gun comparing to AA and HW its priced APT and talking about prices of Airguns in INDIA. Nothing costs less than 30K in INDIA.

How much Shaktiman is costing right now? I don't think its around 9K is it?

-Inder
Inder,
I am unaware of prices in the US.A twin barrel 12g from shaktimaan costs close to INR 15k(poor arithmetic in the last post :) ).a single barrel would be much cheaper.btw, muzzle loaders cost around INR 6k-7k.
Pran

Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 10:55 pm
by conty1
Does anyone know if I can carry 'shotshells' for this air shotgun easily with me if I am flying to India?!?

Amit