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What is 2 stage trigger?

Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 11:22 am
by tirths
1. What is 2 stage trigger?
2.What is the theory about it?
3. What are the different kind of 2 stage trigger available?
4. What is the Pseudo 2 stage trigger?
5. How is it different than the true 2stage?

Please share your view on this topic.

Re: What is 2 stage trigger?

Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 1:50 pm
by pkjeetesh
Thirths... :wink: I know you have the answers to all those questions...I do feel you are trying to drive down some point to all the hoopla surrounding a new/recent development...yet, Im with you since I have the same doubts...heres what I could find:

http://www.pilkguns.com/arch/arch174.htm

Satisfied..darling??

Re: What is 2 stage trigger?

Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 6:29 pm
by fantumfan2003
Guys stop getting into hair splitting and enjoy the hobby.
Spend more time firing the gun than punching the keyboard.
Let me assure you that on my new IHP 35 the fatory trigger is quite acceptable.
If you fancy a real two stage trigger like rekord get yourself an HW or TX200 and enjoy the shooting.

M.
pkjeetesh wrote:Thirths... :wink: I know you have the answers to all those questions...I do feel you are trying to drive down some point to all the hoopla surrounding a new/recent development...yet, Im with you since I have the same doubts...heres what I could compile..

Answers to

(1) and (2). A two stage trigger has two definite stages, first, a "take-up" stage, and then a "release" stage. This is usually accomplished either by the configuration of the trigger cam, which contacts the sear or separate spring adjustments for the two stages. The benefit of two stage triggers is that you can take up the first stage, hold, and then follow through with the shot, when the sight picture looks right. The perceived weight of the firing stage, being the difference between the two stages, is lighter than the actual weight of pull.

(3) Of the ones that I know, the Diana T01 with two screws and the unitized Diana T05 with one screw are the two different types of two stage trigger mechanisms. Only in the latter the pull weight cannot be adjusted. It may provide you with a feeling of being lightened only (debatable,though).

(4)In pseudo two stage triggers, the first stage is just a pivoting trigger blade that does not move sears. The down side is that they are more difficult to adjust correctly. More like the Gamo factory triggers. And our very own IHP.

(5)True two stage trigger mechanism. This means that as the trigger is pulled the bottom sear gradually disengages with the top sear until the two disengage completely and the rifle goes off. If the pressure on the trigger is released at any point before full disengagement, the bottom sear will automatically return back to full engagement. This typeof trigger allows very fine but safe operation because it is the release of the 2nd stage that actually makes the rifle fire.

Satisfied..darling??

Re: What is 2 stage trigger?

Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 7:02 pm
by pkjeetesh
Thanks..Abhijeet..and Fantum...this is enjoying the hobby....you want the best dont you...the GRT3 is next on my CFX and so is the Rekord for RWS54/P31...

Re: What is 2 stage trigger?

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 3:44 pm
by mundaire
Thought I'd post an animation to help clear the matter for anyone who'd like to better understand how stage 1 & 2 typically work, though if I am not mistaken someone had posted a link to this animation/ website sometime ago... anyhow here goes:

http://www.arld1.com/tx200trigger.html

There are lots of other animations as well as other interesting material on that site that some of you might want to check out.

Cheers!
Abhijeet

Re: What is 2 stage trigger?

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 4:14 pm
by striker
pkjeetesh wrote: GRT3 is next on my CFX and so is the Rekord for RWS54/P31...
jeetesh have u ordered for grt-3 Trigger?

cheers
sankar

Re: What is 2 stage trigger?

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 10:22 pm
by pkjeetesh
Not yet Striker...