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Air rifle import from China
Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 10:05 am
by arun
Hi
My friend is visiting China. Please suggest me some good .177 air rifles with regards to quality, accuracy, power and cost. I heard that many clones of reputed brands are manufactured in China, would request input on those too.
Regards
Arun
Re: Air rifle import from China
Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 12:24 pm
by tirths
AFAIK no gun can be purchased in china.
Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 1:45 pm
by mundaire
Tirths is correct, you'd have to order the Chicom stuff from USA or elsewhere...
Cheers!
Abhijeet
Re: Air rifle import from China
Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 4:28 pm
by sudhaiob
My friend is also in china. chinese are paranoid about guns in civilian hands. There are no gun shops, even though they manufacture a lot of weapons for the use by their forces and for export.
regs
sudhaiob
Re: Air rifle import from China
Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 5:05 pm
by Rlyeh
arun";p="64219 wrote:Hi
I heard that many clones of reputed brands are manufactured in China, would request input on those too.
Regards
Arun
Hello from Poland,
In fact, there are some popular brand's clones manufactured in China. The problem is their quality control. There's a chance you'll get good specimen, but in comparison to chance of getting bad one - I wouldn't try.
There are two models worth of trying. QB78 and QB79 by Industry Brand (AR2078 and AR2079/B), (better) copy of Crosman 160/167. The system seems to be identical in 78 and 79, they differ in gunstock, finishing and addons. In Poland QB series is rather cheap, so they are in USA (DeLuxe versions by ArcherAirgun). While chinese spring air rifles are just BAD (everything is of low quality, mainspring, barrel, gunstock, trigger... they're also dangerous especially in B3 (underbarrel cocking system)), these CO2 models are just sweet. Good workmanship, easy to modify and very accurate (and barrel may be crowned, so pellet dispersion can be potentially made smaller). The bad is seals are often weak and metal finishing is in some way poor - when disassembling seals may be damaged by sharp inner metal edges in gun system.
There's something called BMK 50 (Xisico XS-B50), an chinese version of PCP Daystate Huntsman. Not recommended, as is dangerous itself - air container is made from low quality materials, can do bad thing some day... Also Weihrauch 85 has been copied, it's BMK 20. BMK 19 is copy of Gamo Hunter 440. There also many more.
Re: Air rifle import from China
Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 8:23 pm
by jonahpach
Hello Rlyeh Welcome to the Forum! Do post an introduction (mandatory) of yourself and tell us about the gun scene in Poland.
Jonah
Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 8:26 pm
by dev
Rlyeh";p="64797 wrote:
arun";p="64219 wrote:Hi
I heard that many clones of reputed brands are manufactured in China, would request input on those too.
Regards
Arun
Hello from Poland,
In fact, there are some popular brand's clones manufactured in China. The problem is their quality control. There's a chance you'll get good specimen, but in comparison to chance of getting bad one - I wouldn't try.
There are two models worth of trying. QB78 and QB79 by Industry Brand (AR2078 and AR2079/B), (better) copy of Crosman 160/167. The system seems to be identical in 78 and 79, they differ in gunstock, finishing and addons. In Poland QB series is rather cheap, so they are in USA (DeLuxe versions by ArcherAirgun). While chinese spring air rifles are just BAD (everything is of low quality, mainspring, barrel, gunstock, trigger... they're also dangerous especially in B3 (underbarrel cocking system)), these CO2 models are just sweet. Good workmanship, easy to modify and very accurate (and barrel may be crowned, so pellet dispersion can be potentially made smaller). The bad is seals are often weak and metal finishing is in some way poor - when disassembling seals may be damaged by sharp inner metal edges in gun system.
There's something called BMK 50 (Xisico XS-B50), an chinese version of PCP Daystate Huntsman. Not recommended, as is dangerous itself - air container is made from low quality materials, can do bad thing some day... Also Weihrauch 85 has been copied, it's BMK 20. BMK 19 is copy of Gamo Hunter 440. There also many more.
Chinese air rifles when bought from a reputed American tuner are a very good deal. I love my bulk qb78 that Mac1 sold to me. It does 600fps with Crosman HP 14.3 grain premiers.
Regards,
Dev
P.S. The Shanghai Airgun factory is contactable by phone. I guess they will courier an airgun to you. Might work out cheaper that way but it is normally safer to go through a tuner.
Re: Air rifle import from China
Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 8:42 pm
by OverUnderPump
dev";p="64835 wrote:
Chinese air rifles when bought from a reputed American tuner are a very good deal. I love my bulk qb78 that Mac1 sold to me. It does 600fps with Crosman HP 14.3 grain premiers.
I second that, another good example is the B40 (replica of the TX) which Sid_Kapur has. It was sourced from the US too. So, getting it from China may be cheaper, but you'd need to sort out the chinks in the 'armor' in case you do. Buy from the US and you would save money on Aspirin.
regards
OUP