Hammerli AP20 Pro Review
Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2019 7:44 pm
Dear All,
Almost nowhere we do have a review of this "entry level" gun.
The other thread is at target talk.
As far as I know only 2 guys are talking about this in India, one of them is yours truly.
So, I thought that we should talk about it.
Given I am creating this thread, let me go first at it.
=== The review ===
Price:
80,500 including GST. Nearest competition is 1.18L LP2, and next (evo 10) is 100% of that margin away, at 1.53L.
It is incredibly cheap.
Looks:
It sure looks like cheap. I mean it obviously does.
Literally looks like a toy, with multi coloured barrel sleeves. I used grey, pink, and finally settled at orange.
Weight:
At 1 kg, it is medium, not really light, and not heavy. While it is lighter than morinis, and pardinis,
it is way heavier than it's first cousin LP 500, all of them. It has advantage and disadvantages.
Sights:
Incredible. I am cross eyed, my dominant eye is left while I shoot with right eye. ONLY this gun allows you to take the sight to the rearest of rear, and that literally grants you incredible accuracy. Unlike others both the height and side adjustments can be done by hand, instead of screw drivers. One can also adjust the gap between the rear sight.
The adjustments you can do is out of the world.
You have to rotate 8 times the screws to take you out of a ring to the next. Incredible accuracy of adjustments.
Trigger:
World class trigger, and adjustments. You can practically make it go any way, any direction, and move it up and down and forward and backward. Did I mention you can height adjust it? You can.
Feels incredible, but not at per with Steyr. The feeling of AP 20 trigger is different.
Grip: M Grip.
Almost Perfectly fit in, and somehow my hand adjusted with it. I can and actually change holding position in a match situation! Funnily, it does not change accuracy of the shots. Again, given I am cross eyed, I shoot with forward facing stance - not with a side stance.
Recoil:
If you have the right grip, it does not feel at all. At all. If you do not have right grip it moves, but, no loss of accuracy. Not sure how did they do it, I am seeing for a week now.
Happened at least 10 times, and 8 times I did get a 10, 2 times 9.
Accuracy:
Dead accurate. We did 2 tests - ( because I was shooting leftish - cross eye remember ) to fix it, once with support. The group size was less than 8mm, and trust me - it was preciholes precipel pellets, not this gun.
Walther claims it is 6mm group size.
Honestly, If I take time to shoot and relaxed, I can see pellets goes inside the same hole 2 times.
Caution:
If you are taking a good shot, it does it beautifully. But, if you are doing a bad shot, hand trembling and so on and so forth, it will give you pathetic shots. I firmly believe, for competitive shooting "practice & learn" it is ideal. And this is universal for every match pistol of walther, they amplify your accuracy and your errors.
It is important to end with customary images, which are here.
Final Verdict.
If you are starting serious competitive shooting, then there is NO gun that beats it.
I received this Sat Jul 13, 2019 - and today is 30 July, 2019.
My score today is 356/400 ( non decimal ).
Last 4 days I was in 349 zone.
I do not see what would have been better with a gun 2 times price of this.
It is not entry level. At all. I can safely tell you I am getting scores at per with people using morini and pardini.
And finally, yesterday and todays score :
Almost nowhere we do have a review of this "entry level" gun.
The other thread is at target talk.
As far as I know only 2 guys are talking about this in India, one of them is yours truly.
So, I thought that we should talk about it.
Given I am creating this thread, let me go first at it.
=== The review ===
Price:
80,500 including GST. Nearest competition is 1.18L LP2, and next (evo 10) is 100% of that margin away, at 1.53L.
It is incredibly cheap.
Looks:
It sure looks like cheap. I mean it obviously does.
Literally looks like a toy, with multi coloured barrel sleeves. I used grey, pink, and finally settled at orange.
Weight:
At 1 kg, it is medium, not really light, and not heavy. While it is lighter than morinis, and pardinis,
it is way heavier than it's first cousin LP 500, all of them. It has advantage and disadvantages.
Sights:
Incredible. I am cross eyed, my dominant eye is left while I shoot with right eye. ONLY this gun allows you to take the sight to the rearest of rear, and that literally grants you incredible accuracy. Unlike others both the height and side adjustments can be done by hand, instead of screw drivers. One can also adjust the gap between the rear sight.
The adjustments you can do is out of the world.
You have to rotate 8 times the screws to take you out of a ring to the next. Incredible accuracy of adjustments.
Trigger:
World class trigger, and adjustments. You can practically make it go any way, any direction, and move it up and down and forward and backward. Did I mention you can height adjust it? You can.
Feels incredible, but not at per with Steyr. The feeling of AP 20 trigger is different.
Grip: M Grip.
Almost Perfectly fit in, and somehow my hand adjusted with it. I can and actually change holding position in a match situation! Funnily, it does not change accuracy of the shots. Again, given I am cross eyed, I shoot with forward facing stance - not with a side stance.
Recoil:
If you have the right grip, it does not feel at all. At all. If you do not have right grip it moves, but, no loss of accuracy. Not sure how did they do it, I am seeing for a week now.
Happened at least 10 times, and 8 times I did get a 10, 2 times 9.
Accuracy:
Dead accurate. We did 2 tests - ( because I was shooting leftish - cross eye remember ) to fix it, once with support. The group size was less than 8mm, and trust me - it was preciholes precipel pellets, not this gun.
Walther claims it is 6mm group size.
Honestly, If I take time to shoot and relaxed, I can see pellets goes inside the same hole 2 times.
Caution:
If you are taking a good shot, it does it beautifully. But, if you are doing a bad shot, hand trembling and so on and so forth, it will give you pathetic shots. I firmly believe, for competitive shooting "practice & learn" it is ideal. And this is universal for every match pistol of walther, they amplify your accuracy and your errors.
It is important to end with customary images, which are here.
Final Verdict.
If you are starting serious competitive shooting, then there is NO gun that beats it.
I received this Sat Jul 13, 2019 - and today is 30 July, 2019.
My score today is 356/400 ( non decimal ).
Last 4 days I was in 349 zone.
I do not see what would have been better with a gun 2 times price of this.
It is not entry level. At all. I can safely tell you I am getting scores at per with people using morini and pardini.
And finally, yesterday and todays score :