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Makeshift Pellet Trap!
Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2017 11:26 pm
by Eldroidism
Sooo, it's been a few months since I've recieved my Precihole NX100, and I haven't had much time with it on the farmhouse or at a range. So I came up with this contraption!
A make shift bullet trap to aid in reducing ricochet at close range, and to protect my walls from major damage.
As you can see, it's simply a couple layers of cardboard with a steel pan lid sandwiched between. The entire thing is held together with some rope, and I place paper targets infront of it during practice. The .177 pellets get collected between the lid and cardboard sheets and make it less of a mess in the house.
Now, here's the fun part. I've barely fired approximately​ 50 shots at it, and here is the outcome:
There are dents all over, and a gaping hole, almost an inch wide, at the part most shot at! The metal lid is fairly thick, I would say, and not made of cheap quality. I've now replaced the lid with an old tawa made of cast iron, and that is holding up well. Not even a dent in that (obviously) as it is a solid, thick piece.
Let this little experiment of mine be a testament to the colossal damage a Precihole NX100 can produce at short range (6-8meters). Quite a powerful air rifle, wouldn't y'all say?
Pellets used were the dome shaped Precipel Field Targets. Best for NX100 in my opinion.
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Re: Makeshift Pellet Trap!
Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2017 11:36 am
by nitroex700
This is to be expected.. It would be unwise to underestimate even 2-3fpe power... With that much remaining power my plywood targets get dented by 1mm or so very often at long ranges... Keep at it a bit longer and you will shoot through your wall too!
Re: Makeshift Pellet Trap!
Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2017 1:49 pm
by sam 47
I have had a very similar experience. In a shooting session spanning around 50 shots, I punched through not only a stout steel plate, but nearly through the perimeter wall of our house as well. It was using flat head pellets at 15.5m, I think domes would have put a hole in the wall. Sadly no one appreciated the fact that I had shot 50 shots through the same hole.
Re: Makeshift Pellet Trap!
Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2017 3:19 pm
by Eldroidism
Woah, that's neat Sam! BTW, were you shooting .177 or .22?
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Re: Makeshift Pellet Trap!
Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2017 8:23 pm
by vsraja
Hi all, i have made my pellet trap using an empty oil tin stuffed with coconut fibers available at home.It successfully traps any high speed pellet and also there is no noise of pellet hitting the trap.The maintenance is also easy and also very much portable.
Re: RE: Re: Makeshift Pellet Trap!
Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2017 8:39 pm
by Eldroidism
vsraja wrote:Hi all, i have made my pellet trap using an empty oil tin stuffed with coconut fibers available at home.It successfully traps any high speed pellet and also there is no noise of pellet hitting the trap.The maintenance is also easy and also very much portable.
That's a nice idea! Will keep in mind for my next design [emoji4]
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Re: RE: Re: Makeshift Pellet Trap!
Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2017 8:43 pm
by vsraja
vsraja wrote:Hi all, i have made my pellet trap using an empty oil tin stuffed with coconut fibers available at home.It successfully traps any high speed pellet and also there is no noise of pellet hitting the trap.The maintenance is also easy and also very much portable.
pellet trap silent jpg.jpg
This is my silent trap.I can also say that not even a single pellet reaches the back side of that trap.I had more than 1500 shots through that.Even a pellet from hurricane cant reach even half the distance of the trap, it can be achieved by proper stuffing of the fiber.
Re: Makeshift Pellet Trap!
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2017 11:30 am
by sam 47
Eldroidism wrote:Woah, that's neat Sam! BTW, were you shooting .177 or .22?
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I was shooting .177s @ 15 fpe. At sub-15 fpe, .177 pellets at higher velocities and lower surface area penetrates far more than a .22. Nowadays I don't shoot .22 much because .22 pellets are very difficult to obtain.
Excellent idea about the silent pellet catcher vsraja, will give it a try.
Re: RE: Re: Makeshift Pellet Trap!
Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2017 2:28 am
by Eldroidism
sam 47 wrote:Eldroidism wrote:Woah, that's neat Sam! BTW, were you shooting .177 or .22?
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I was shooting .177s @ 15 fpe. At sub-15 fpe, .177 pellets at higher velocities and lower surface area penetrates far more than a .22. Nowadays I don't shoot .22 much because .22 pellets are very difficult to obtain.
Excellent idea about the silent pellet catcher vsraja, will give it a try.
I didn't quite understand your statement. So you're saying that .177 pellets have better penetration when fired at fpe lower than 15? Isn't that counterintuitive? Wouldn't a pellet fired with higher muzzle energy have more penetrative power? Am I missing something here?
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Re: RE: Re: Makeshift Pellet Trap!
Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2017 9:50 am
by sam 47
Eldroidism wrote:
. So you're saying that .177 pellets have better penetration when fired at fpe lower than 15?
That's not what I am saying. I am saying .177 pellets penetrate better when
compared to the .22 pellets at energy levels of 15-fpe or any energy level for that matter. The results are just more definitive when tested at sub-15 fpe than say at 25 fpe.
Re: Makeshift Pellet Trap!
Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2017 11:31 am
by Eldroidism
Okay, I see. I got confused because I read somewhere that .177s perform better at lower (subsonic) velocities. As they go supersonic, turbulence at that speed makes them unstable and they lose their accuracy and ultimately tumble mid-flight. So they say, for max accuracy ARs below 1000fps or so are best. Is this true?
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Re: Makeshift Pellet Trap!
Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2017 8:37 pm
by sam 47
Yes, pellets can't hit a thing when they go supersonic.The upper limit for AR pellets is the sound barrier, that is around 1100 fps. That being said, if your gun is clocking more than 1000 fps and reaching around 1020 fps limit, it is best to use a heavier pellet. I had once fired a Gamo hunter extreme advertised at 1600 fps , and I never ever wish to use it again.
Re: Makeshift Pellet Trap!
Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2017 9:04 pm
by Eldroidism
Hahahahahahaha... I'll take your word for it. Here are the pellets I purchased from 10kya along with my NX100. The Precipell Field Target is 8.7gr, Gamo G-Hammer are 15.4gr (1g) and the Geco Superpoint are 7.7 gr. Do you think it is safe to fire the G-Hammers as they're so heavy? The hits on all 3 are way different, even at close range. I feel the most accurate are the Precipells, I can land multiple shots on top of one another. The most difficult are the G-Hammers. Any knowledge you can impart about these pellets? Have you used them before? (Referring to Gamo and Geco)
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Re: Makeshift Pellet Trap!
Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 3:27 pm
by sam 47
IMHO, 15.4 gr pellets in .177 are just wayy to heavy for a 12 fpe springer.
I use 15 grain pellets for the .22 NX100. Aren't there any noticeable differences in the shot cycle and felt recoil between the 8.7 gr precipell and 15.4 gr pellets?
There was a perceptible difference in felt recoil and vibration that was caused by 20 grain ammo in my Scorpius, which I believe was caused due to excessive piston bounce.
Re: Makeshift Pellet Trap!
Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 3:38 pm
by Eldroidism
Not sure I've noticed the recoil much but it sounded a bit more muffled, like as if it were suppressed. I don't remember why I bought them, I just wanted to try different pellets I guess. Are they harmful to the AR? Also, while on the topic of pellets, I'm not clear on how to find the BC of Precipell Field Targets to input into ChairGun. Most other pellets already have their BCs saved in those templates. Where does one find the BC for Precipell?
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