[Issue] Purchased Precihole NX Scorpius - Not Satisfied
Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 2:32 pm
Hi IFGians,
After a lot of analysis, discussions and study, I decided to go with the NX series AR in .22 caliber - The Scorpius.
You can go through the post - "Precihole Scorpius - Decision Making Points?", If you have not already.
I was looking for the Karbin model basically and had called up most of the stores in B'lore to check the availability & price.
Most of them did not had it in stock and if they had, the price quoted was 18K+ which is insane.
Olive Planet said they have it in stock and the price quoted was reasonable, though a bit more than the price on other online sites.
On reaching the store, could not find a piece in Scorpius Karbin with scope stop.
So had to settle for a normal long barrel AR. Now came the second problem, none of them comes in the standard Black stock.
They helped me in this context by changing the stock with that of another AR.
It was raining then and could not take many shots, just took two, as the only available space for a trial was on the terrace of the building.
I bought the AR anyways and thus my second rifle reached home on 28-Feb, the first one being IHP35 in .177.
I was unfortunate on getting any pellets, as .22 was out of stock there; On the way back home, I planned to visit the Kovi store and pick some pellets.
Online, I had seen their working time is till 6:30PM and hence called them up to confirm if they are still open, as it was already 6:20PM, but none picked up the call despite multiple trials, so I gave up the plan and called it a day.
Hence decided to get it online, the same night, placed an order on KoviBazaar.com for 2 packs of Precipell round head .22 pellets.
It took 5 days to get it delivered, which is not at all great work from Fedex, just to make the delivery with in Karnataka state itself.
I had to wait for one whole week to take the first shot out of my AR, after the purchase.
First Impression - Not At All Satisfied with the Precihole AR.
Please note that am comparing the Precihole AR with just the IHP-35 that I own and not with any international ARs which are of premium quality.
The fit and finish - Just average, if not less than average; Overall finish on the black stock is just OK, there are scratches and unfinished plastics. The links and hinges rattle if I shake the AR. The rubber padding for managing the recoil on the butt is fixed to the butt with very bad finish. My IHP flares in this aspect with the beautiful fit and finish and wooden stock.
Cocking Effort - No difference noticed from a springer - People who keep advocating NX for less cocking effort than Spring pistons and people buy it for this as a reason, please think twice.
The latch under the breech seal, which holds the barrel aligned with the compression cylinder is very hard and hence it takes, 4 to 5 attempts to complete the cocking. Am comparing with my IHP which was never this hard from day one.
Trigger - Well do not have much complaints here. Initially there were a few shots which surprised me as I was not sure when it is going to go off, obviously it was just me and got used to it in some time. Better than IHP, but the look and finish of the trigger is not good, There is noticable color and finish difference on the golden plated trigger.
Overall Ergonomics - Not happy with the weight balance for the AR, its too front heavy may be because of the fiber stock is light. My IHP is so very well balanced and am used to that. Also the hold doesn't give me a good feel, the cheek piece and the sights are not aligned completely and some how gets screwed up and I do not feel comfortable while taking aim. This is affecting my consistent & comfortable hold position for every shot.
Pellet Loading - The pellet holds quite loose on the breech. I use the Precipell .22 pellets and its loose, thats not fair. A couple of times the pellet came out and got jammed between the barrel and the cylinder at the break point. Read this together with the hard cocking issue I highlighted above, I had to try 4 times to complete cocking that time. My IHP .177 pellets are snug fit and it never comes off even if we try to pull it out. But my Scorpius will let go of the pellet if i slightly keep the barrel at at angle. Really irritated with this.
Sight Alignment - Well, I had kept the worst for the last. I took the AR out of the box and took a shot, the pellet went too high on my target. I have read many people here say that the Precihole ARs come factory tuned and sighted in. But my case seems to be entirely different. Whatever, I tried correcting the rear sights, I was surprised to see that even after keeping the sights adjusted to the lowest possible point, the pellets are still hitting way high on the target. Am frustrated with this and cant find a way to get this fixed till now. Except for the option of targeting well low than the expect point of impact so as to compensate the error on the AR. But hey, I spent 12.5K on this AR and thats not to do such 'adjustment shooting'. Now my feelings has got escalated from irritation to frustration and upset.
The last 3 point mentioned above are cardinal issues that I face and am not at all comfortable and happy using the AR.
Some of you Prechihole fans here might come defending the AR, pouncing and attacking me, but this is my feedback, based on my experience. May be my AR would be an off piece, but my experience as well counts and this may not be the only one as well and did not pay any less than others. So deserve a good piece and not a defective one. Would not recommend this for anyone as of now.
Will try to talk to the Precihole team and try to take their advise on this soon. But am completely disappointed at the moment.
-Arvind S.
After a lot of analysis, discussions and study, I decided to go with the NX series AR in .22 caliber - The Scorpius.
You can go through the post - "Precihole Scorpius - Decision Making Points?", If you have not already.
I was looking for the Karbin model basically and had called up most of the stores in B'lore to check the availability & price.
Most of them did not had it in stock and if they had, the price quoted was 18K+ which is insane.
Olive Planet said they have it in stock and the price quoted was reasonable, though a bit more than the price on other online sites.
On reaching the store, could not find a piece in Scorpius Karbin with scope stop.
So had to settle for a normal long barrel AR. Now came the second problem, none of them comes in the standard Black stock.
They helped me in this context by changing the stock with that of another AR.
It was raining then and could not take many shots, just took two, as the only available space for a trial was on the terrace of the building.
I bought the AR anyways and thus my second rifle reached home on 28-Feb, the first one being IHP35 in .177.
I was unfortunate on getting any pellets, as .22 was out of stock there; On the way back home, I planned to visit the Kovi store and pick some pellets.
Online, I had seen their working time is till 6:30PM and hence called them up to confirm if they are still open, as it was already 6:20PM, but none picked up the call despite multiple trials, so I gave up the plan and called it a day.
Hence decided to get it online, the same night, placed an order on KoviBazaar.com for 2 packs of Precipell round head .22 pellets.
It took 5 days to get it delivered, which is not at all great work from Fedex, just to make the delivery with in Karnataka state itself.
I had to wait for one whole week to take the first shot out of my AR, after the purchase.
First Impression - Not At All Satisfied with the Precihole AR.
Please note that am comparing the Precihole AR with just the IHP-35 that I own and not with any international ARs which are of premium quality.
The fit and finish - Just average, if not less than average; Overall finish on the black stock is just OK, there are scratches and unfinished plastics. The links and hinges rattle if I shake the AR. The rubber padding for managing the recoil on the butt is fixed to the butt with very bad finish. My IHP flares in this aspect with the beautiful fit and finish and wooden stock.
Cocking Effort - No difference noticed from a springer - People who keep advocating NX for less cocking effort than Spring pistons and people buy it for this as a reason, please think twice.
The latch under the breech seal, which holds the barrel aligned with the compression cylinder is very hard and hence it takes, 4 to 5 attempts to complete the cocking. Am comparing with my IHP which was never this hard from day one.
Trigger - Well do not have much complaints here. Initially there were a few shots which surprised me as I was not sure when it is going to go off, obviously it was just me and got used to it in some time. Better than IHP, but the look and finish of the trigger is not good, There is noticable color and finish difference on the golden plated trigger.
Overall Ergonomics - Not happy with the weight balance for the AR, its too front heavy may be because of the fiber stock is light. My IHP is so very well balanced and am used to that. Also the hold doesn't give me a good feel, the cheek piece and the sights are not aligned completely and some how gets screwed up and I do not feel comfortable while taking aim. This is affecting my consistent & comfortable hold position for every shot.
Pellet Loading - The pellet holds quite loose on the breech. I use the Precipell .22 pellets and its loose, thats not fair. A couple of times the pellet came out and got jammed between the barrel and the cylinder at the break point. Read this together with the hard cocking issue I highlighted above, I had to try 4 times to complete cocking that time. My IHP .177 pellets are snug fit and it never comes off even if we try to pull it out. But my Scorpius will let go of the pellet if i slightly keep the barrel at at angle. Really irritated with this.
Sight Alignment - Well, I had kept the worst for the last. I took the AR out of the box and took a shot, the pellet went too high on my target. I have read many people here say that the Precihole ARs come factory tuned and sighted in. But my case seems to be entirely different. Whatever, I tried correcting the rear sights, I was surprised to see that even after keeping the sights adjusted to the lowest possible point, the pellets are still hitting way high on the target. Am frustrated with this and cant find a way to get this fixed till now. Except for the option of targeting well low than the expect point of impact so as to compensate the error on the AR. But hey, I spent 12.5K on this AR and thats not to do such 'adjustment shooting'. Now my feelings has got escalated from irritation to frustration and upset.
The last 3 point mentioned above are cardinal issues that I face and am not at all comfortable and happy using the AR.
Some of you Prechihole fans here might come defending the AR, pouncing and attacking me, but this is my feedback, based on my experience. May be my AR would be an off piece, but my experience as well counts and this may not be the only one as well and did not pay any less than others. So deserve a good piece and not a defective one. Would not recommend this for anyone as of now.
Will try to talk to the Precihole team and try to take their advise on this soon. But am completely disappointed at the moment.
-Arvind S.
) - But unless you spend some time getting used to it - it may feel unfamiliar. Report back after 30 days - because there can be little niggles as well as pleasant surprises.