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Homemade AR telescope

Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 2:19 pm
by vivek16sep1969
Hi everyone
I really don’t know how to put this in front of all of you.
I have been witnessing so many discussions on the forum regarding AR telescopes, but was not sure whether to buy one for my rifle(Canon LG 150 22 cal) or not and moreover my AR was minus the rails as you could see in the pictures.
Some days back, I just thought of making one for myself. I recollected all the information gathered during my school days. “Optics” was a chapter of Physics course in class x. I remember there were few projects given at the end of the chapter and how to make a telescope was one of them.
I remember that the fore lens (objective) was convex ( + sign ) and the hind lens (eye piece) was concave (- sign).
I wear specs with – power and the power is -3.5 D . I had few old lenses lying with me. I went to an optician and asked for some old lenses with + power. He gave me few old lenses for rs 10.00 . I came back and made pairs of both the + power lenses and the – power lenses and found that some of them were in coordination, that is, I was getting en enlarged, vertical and virtual image. The next problem was to find holders to fix the rectangular lenses. I used a Pepsi bottle cap for the hind lense and a Listerine( mouth wash) bottle cap for the fore lens. But before doing so, I had to see whether the diameter of the both the caps were more than the width of the lenses. Then I went back to the same optician and asked him to reshape the lens as per the new dimensions.
Meanwhile , I went to the market and bought 2 plastic pipes of ½ “ dia and ¾” dia, one foot each( rs 13 for both). These pipes could easily slide into each other.
Once I had acquired all the constituent s, I decide to assemble the telescope.
The main problem was to make holes in the bottle caps, so that the pipes could be put in . I took an iron pipe( ½ “) and put it on the gas stove till it became red . Then I inserted the pipe in the bottle caps and with a little bit of twisting and turning, the holes were ready . I, then inserted the plastic pipes in the holes and sealed the joints with feviquick.
After this , I fixed the lenses on both ends , again with the help of feviquick( the + lens on the bigger bottle cap). After this, I slided the pipes inside each other and judged the magnification and the clarity of the image thus formed. The image was distorted. I had to cut the ½ “ pipe a bit to get the exact length and a clear image and to my joy the image was about 4- 5 times the size of the object and quite clear. My telescope was ready.
The problem I faced after that was the ½ “ pipe kept sliding out of the ¾” pipe. To solve this ,I made a small hole, at the rear end of the ¾”pipe, with the help of a compass, fastened it with a gear ,which was of my old mixer juicer grinder. Now both the pipes were held firmly with the help of this gear. It also acted as the main pivot, to increase or decrease the size of the telescope .
I did all this with no idea about the focal length of the lenses and size of the plastic pipes. It was just trial and error method.
But now the main question was how to mount it on the AR. At the rear end of the telescope I fixed a plastic nut ( with feviquick), and at the fore end I fixed 2 moveable iron clamps – U shaped ( available at any electric goods store). The plastic nut went in perfectly, in the peep sight assembly, and the U shape clamps , held the spring chamber and the telescope, as you could see in the picture.
My experiment came to an end. The assembly is crude, though, it is not sophisticated but still it but works.
The entire exercise was for about 30- 40 rupees, but the outcome was precious.
I sincerely thank you Mr Sharma (my Physics teacher in cl x).
It is working perfectly. I did try a few shots with the telescope on and most of them were bulls eye.
I wish to have your comments.
Enjoying viewing and Regards…….

Re: Homemade AR telescope

Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 2:39 pm
by vivek16sep1969
few more pics

Re: Homemade AR telescope

Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 2:43 pm
by vivek16sep1969
few more pics

Re: Homemade AR telescope

Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 3:16 pm
by sa_ali
Looks interesting :), you have dared to venture where few think. Kudos to you.

Re: Homemade AR telescope

Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 3:38 pm
by moulindu
Hi vivek16sep1969
Nice innovation buddy, simply curious how or what material u have used as crosshair. Incase one need to adjust the windage n elevation i guess he will have do it from the clamping. N how it is coping to the recoil?
Regards Moulindu

Re: Homemade AR telescope

Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 4:17 pm
by bennedose
Congratulations Vivek. Well done. I am happy to see your innovation and irritated that India remains a turd world nation in so many ways. Let alone the idiocy of being stingy about allowing imports of telescopes - I don't think India actually even manufactures telescope quality lenses. This is quite pathertic.

Anyway - enough of a rant. I recall that I had made a telescope and a microscope using methods similar to yours when I was a boy many decades ago. It was very satisfying - but I think you have done something even more difficult that what I did - building a rifle scope. Have you managed to make it fairly rigid so it takes a beating from the recoil?

What India needs is someone innovative like you to set up a manufacturing unit for all sorts of scopes, from binoculars, to telescopes to microscopes. Incdentally all those fancy scopes that one can see in the BEL stall at Aero India or Defexpo are all imported and only the signboards are Indian. So you ar actually one up on the technology available in the country.

+100 for that. Well done again.

Re: Homemade AR telescope

Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 5:04 pm
by TC
Great job Vivek... superb.
Your patience and sincerely is flawless :D

TC

Re: Homemade AR telescope

Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 5:19 pm
by vivek16sep1969
moulindu wrote:Hi vivek16sep1969
Nice innovation buddy, simply curious how or what material u have used as crosshair. Incase one need to adjust the windage n elevation i guess he will have do it from the clamping. N how it is coping to the recoil?
Regards Moulindu
hi buddy.....
I have not used any material for crosshair.....I just allign the centre of the scope with the foresight.....and after every shot ...I have to allign the scope because of the recoil........sooner or later I might be able to overcome this problem as well.......let's see...
:)

Re: Homemade AR telescope

Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 5:20 pm
by vivek16sep1969
TC wrote:Great job Vivek... superb.
Your patience and sincerely is flawless :D

TC
thank u sir

Re: Homemade AR telescope

Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 7:57 pm
by essdee1972
Great job Vivek!

For crosshairs, you can probably ask a friendly neighbourhood chashmawallah if he can etch lines exactly on the centre of the objective. But...... good chances that he'll spoil the thing!

Re: Homemade AR telescope

Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 11:47 pm
by tirpassion
Nice innovation Vivek!

best regards
tirpassion

Re: Homemade AR telescope

Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 12:57 pm
by vivek16sep1969
essdee1972 wrote:Great job Vivek!

For crosshairs, you can probably ask a friendly neighbourhood chashmawallah if he can etch lines exactly on the centre of the objective. But...... good chances that he'll spoil the thing!
thank u sir

Re: Homemade AR telescope

Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 12:58 pm
by vivek16sep1969
tirpassion wrote:Nice innovation Vivek!

best regards
tirpassion
thank u sir