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Knee rest for my Pegasus

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 3:29 pm
by pratik_mahale
I use a very light wood piece 1” X 1” & 4” long below that I used a Duster which normally used to clean the black board in schools the height of the duster is 1 “ so totally I got around 2” height gain plus dusters cleaning side act as a good cushion for knee

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Feels very comfortable with “traditional FT position” is where the feet are close together, crossed or touching, the left arm rest on the left knee and the right elbow rests on the right knee area. The gun rest upon shooters left elbow and the shooters side is towards the target.
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Re: Knee rest for my Pegasus

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 8:16 pm
by pratik_mahale
Some modification in knee rest for better performance

Instead of Duster I used a wooden piece which is longer than Duster gives more flexibility
I added some lead weight to the bottom of my Pegasus pistol grip as a counter weight for the scope & to make balance point of gun at the center of knee rest
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Re: Knee rest for my Pegasus

Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 11:49 pm
by tarat
Thats a good one! Just curious ... How do you find the Pegasus for offhand shooting? In your experience can you hold the blade STEADY on target offhand for a few seconds (prior to firing the shot)?

Re: Knee rest for my Pegasus

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 12:32 am
by pratik_mahale
Offhand shooting needs good practice & I just get one or two days in week to shoot
So normally I shoot in sitting position which is more comfortable for me & can shoot for a longer time
Regarding your question open site (without scope) is more comfortable for offhand shooting because of less weight

Re: Knee rest for my Pegasus

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 2:14 pm
by fantumfan2003
Could'nt resist jumping in here. There is never a situation where the movement completely stops. It can be minimised but cannot be stopped completely. This is achieved with a lot of holding practice, a near perfect off hand position and consistent Natural point of aim. Keeping the Pegasus almost steady in offhand is not difficult, remember to hold it as loosely as possible for best accuracy. Search for artillery hold here and modify it for offhand position.

M.
tarat wrote:Thats a good one! Just curious ... How do you find the Pegasus for offhand shooting? In your experience can you hold the blade STEADY on target offhand for a few seconds (prior to firing the shot)?

Re: Knee rest for my Pegasus

Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 1:22 am
by tarat
fantumfan2003 wrote:Keeping the Pegasus almost steady in offhand is not difficult
Guess you have strong arms then / I need to work on arm strength.

It wobbles too much when I try. Its the weight of the rifle thats responsible for the wobble that I'm getting. Think I'm gonna need some 'weight training' with the rifle. I can try a "hand-back" hold, but its not natural (and it looks funny!). I want a natural hold which means a "hand-forward" type of hold - the offhand hold that a person would instinctively assume if you handed them a rifle.

When I first held it, I was taken aback by the weight ; I had casually reached out to grab it, expecting it to be quite light - especially with that synthetic hollow stock and all. If this thing wore a traditional wooden stock ... :shock:

Re: Knee rest for my Pegasus

Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 11:05 am
by pratik_mahale
fantumfan2003 wrote: Keeping the Pegasus almost steady in offhand is not difficult
:agree:

As I said you need practice
strong arms will not make your gun ROCK STEADY in offhand

Re: Knee rest for my Pegasus

Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 11:19 am
by brihacharan
> Most ARs with wooden stock weigh between 7 1/2lbs & 8 1/2 lbs & with scope around 10 lbs.
> Synthetic stocked ARs will weigh about 1 1/2 lbs less.
> Regardless - For a freehold with open sights one does need a steady hand to shoot comfortably & as Pratik says only consistent practice will make you perfect.
Briha

Re: Knee rest for my Pegasus

Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 12:44 pm
by fantumfan2003
I have strong arms ????

ROTFL

You should see me and then say that............

The off hand position relies on the body's bone structure to bear the weight of the rifle. There should be minimal or no muscle involved in bearing the rifle's weight. That is why a frail person like me can sail through a 60 shot match with a rifle that weighs nearly 11lbs.

If you are very serious about shooting in off hand I invite you to go through the following link/s

http://www.chuckhawks.com/rifle_offhand_position.htm

http://artoftherifle.blogspot.in/2011/0 ... art-1.html

http://1stsgtbarksdale.cmswiki.wikispac ... hooter.ppt

M.
tarat wrote:
fantumfan2003 wrote:Keeping the Pegasus almost steady in offhand is not difficult
Guess you have strong arms then / I need to work on arm strength.

It wobbles too much when I try. Its the weight of the rifle thats responsible for the wobble that I'm getting. Think I'm gonna need some 'weight training' with the rifle. I can try a "hand-back" hold, but its not natural (and it looks funny!). I want a natural hold which means a "hand-forward" type of hold - the offhand hold that a person would instinctively assume if you handed them a rifle.

When I first held it, I was taken aback by the weight ; I had casually reached out to grab it, expecting it to be quite light - especially with that synthetic hollow stock and all. If this thing wore a traditional wooden stock ... :shock:

Re: Knee rest for my Pegasus

Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 2:00 pm
by brihacharan
Fantumfan wrote........
The off hand position relies on the body's bone structure to bear the weight of the rifle. There should be minimal or no muscle involved in bearing the rifle's weight.
That is why a frail person like me can sail through a 60 shot match with a rifle that weighs nearly 11lbs :D

FF
> Very well put ....
> It's all about the equitable distribution of the AR's weight so that no 'one bone joint' bears the brunt :D
> Now depending on one's body shape & size - it's a trial & error method to arrive at the most comfortable 'hold' to suit one the best.
Briha

Re: Knee rest for my Pegasus

Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 2:12 pm
by fantumfan2003
Balancing the rifle with weights is also essential and critical.
But I want the OP to take it one at a time. If he finds the Pegasus heavy already, I do not want him to be put off with it by adding more weight to what he feels is already a heavy air rifle.

M.
brihacharan wrote:Very well put ....
It's all about the equitable distribution of the AR's weight so that no 'one bone joint' bears the brunt :D
Now depending on one's body shape & size - it's a trial & error method to arrive at the most comfortable 'hold' to suit one the best.
Briha

Re: Knee rest for my Pegasus

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 2:02 pm
by pratik_mahale
Hi fantumfan2003

I search the internet for tips on FT shooting with Springer Air rifle but all videos are of PCP only can you help me to improve my FT shooting or some links

On our building terrace we have 30 Yards open space whenever I get time I practice with my Pegasus

Re: Knee rest for my Pegasus

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 2:47 pm
by fantumfan2003
Broadly you use tips by the world springer champion as he explains here for the sitting position......



We can meet up and work out the finer points in your terrace........

M.
pratik_mahale wrote:Hi fantumfan2003

I search the internet for tips on FT shooting with Springer Air rifle but all videos are of PCP only can you help me to improve my FT shooting or some links

On our building terrace we have 30 Yards open space whenever I get time I practice with my Pegasus

Re: Knee rest for my Pegasus

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 4:41 pm
by pratik_mahale
fantumfan2003 wrote:Broadly you use tips by the world springer champion as he explains here for the sitting position......



We can meet up and work out the finer points in your terrace........

M.
Thanks fantumfan2003

Any week end between 4 to 6 PM

Re: Knee rest for my Pegasus

Posted: Thu May 02, 2013 11:09 pm
by sathya.sniper
Very good and great job,
Cheers.