Indians For Guns

With the stupid and useless laws of our nation that not to carry an arm, we people in India are not well-exposed even to Air guns as well.

If this is with just an interest to avoid a weapon to not go into careless hands then this logic I don't accept. A simple stone lying on the street can also be used as a weapon. We use knives at home that also could be treated as a weapon, then should we stop to use that as well???

Whenever I see a video of any airgun on Youtube I simplly feel jealous for those who upload it. Not because they can get these weapons in their country but just because we can't get it in India.

In 2006, i had bought a very nice Airsoft electric rifle but somehow it got broken in few months & since then I'm desperately searching for a good gas powered full metal blowback air pistol. I tried to find it in Pune but fed-up for ending my search with some stupid-looking air pistols which we get to see for shooting at small balloons. My question is... If these pistols could be made available so easily then why not real looking replicas that also with plastic BBs which are no-doubt less harmful compared to metal pallets. In last around 6 years just once I could find my desired (somewhat) pistol. It was Walther gas powered replica pistol but it wasn't with magzine loading, instead of magzine it was having just a small wheel with 6 chambers to load metal pallets. The most disappointing thing was its price.... It was priced at Rs.56000 which is available at hardly around 150 US dollars on international sites. I asked about this price difference to the shop owner and got very typical and useless reply of how it's difficult to import these pistols to India and how the price goes up by bribing the various govt. officials while importing it.

Does anybody know that whether we can order airsoft pistols from international websites. I'm readyto spend my money on it but not ready waste my money by ordering and then in detaining the parcel with customs department for some stupid reasons. Plz share your experiences on the same, if any.

I've found many websites having fantastic collection of Airsoft pistol/guns with very attractive prices. Some of them even officially ship to India but are not responsible for clearing the parcel from customs.

So I'll just keep my fingers crossed and will keep my search continued like last 6 years!!!

Regards,
Amit

Not comments on your country laws.
But in 56,000, we are able to purchase real 9mm handgun of worlds various brands.

DOM wrote:Not comments on your country laws.
But in 56,000, we are able to purchase real 9mm handgun of worlds various brands.

yeah, rub it in DOM

amit, I guess now there is no restriction on import of air guns in India. There are several posts here on IFG and people have done it. Now, I guess if you want, you can directly order the air gun from international websites and if they are shipping internationally then they will ship it to you without any issues. And the cost would be just the conversion of dollars to indian rupees.

@ DOM

Indian Government thinks normal people need small calibres and they are right.
Availablity of 9MMs, shows how relaxed a government is about their people's safety.

@ Amit

If you are shooter and have the necessary documentation to back u up, you can order such a gun looking like replica with gas blow back. But the only thing is it needs to be of .177 calibre shooting bbs and pellets. According to the Indian law shooters can import their air rifles, and renowned shooter can import firearms of permissible bore. I have imported such a similar gun looking like replica. Here are the websites check them out ehobbyasia.com and pyramidair.com

@ thegunsofthePatriots.


Dont want to add few lines from my sides?? Otherwise this thread will become hot and hot. As i stated earlier NO COMMENTS ON YOUR COUNTRY LAWS.

One thing, the robbers, the killers, comes with high calibers and autoguns.
How can one handle those people with small calibres. ??

TheGunsOfThePatriots,

The only bar on your owning a .500 Mag is the ban on the import of firearms.If you had taken the trouble to go through the forum,you would have realized that there is no restriction on your owning any non-service calibre hand gun. Your govt. thinks that you are not responsible enough to won a specific calibre and you are happy about it

I would imagine that 'the guns of patriots' would not be limited to pip squeak calibres .

DOM,

How about posting photos of your guns.Would love to see them.Do not bother about people like TGOTP.They come and go.Most manage to get themselves banned in a very short period of time

TheGunsOfThePatriots wrote:@ DOM

Indian Government thinks normal people need small calibres and they are right.
Availablity of 9MMs, shows how relaxed a government is about their people's safety.

Tgtp,

And who is the govt. to decide which caliber is appropriate for the citizens? tomorrow if the govt thinks that the citizens should only be allowed to carry pepper spray bottles, will you agree?

winnie_the_pooh wrote:TheGunsOfThePatriots,

The only bar on your owning a .500 Mag is the ban on the import of firearms.If you had taken the trouble to go through the forum,you would have realized that there is no restriction on your owning any non-service calibre hand gun. Your govt. thinks that you are not responsible enough to won a specific calibre and you are happy about it

I would imagine that 'the guns of patriots' would not be limited to pip squeak calibres .

DOM,

How about posting photos of your guns.Would love to see them.Do not bother about people like TGOTP.They come and go.Most manage to get themselves banned in a very short period of time

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Brother.... here you go to see my collections.

http://www.indiansforguns.com/viewtopic ... 74#p161674


Best regards..

got very typical and useless reply of how it's difficult to import these pistols to India and how the price goes up by bribing the various govt. officials while importing it.

What he is saying might be true. Please go to 'http://compendium.iift.ac.in/ and type 93 in ITC(HS)Code box and click search. Then read the item code 9304, you will find the import policy is restricted. This "restricted" status is an attractive opportunity for the corrupt elements in Customs to extort bribes. They will give the consignee three choices:
1. loose your consignment because it is restricted
or
2. go to court to spend more time and money
or
3. bribe them to let the consignment instantly move into his hands

Any businessman will choose the most financially attractive option out of these three choices.

Plz share your experiences on the same, if any.

Please use the search box on this website to know about experiences. But do keep in mind past experiences do not guarantee future experiences.

I guess now there is no restriction on import of air guns in India.

Import of airguns is still restricted. Please read the above reply related to item code 9304. Only .177 is allowed for rifle club members.

I completely agree with Amits comments rather frustrations...

Even i was getting frustrated & irritated for the past year or so trying to lay my hands on a real looking metal make pistol.
When ever i go to a store asking for one, people (shop owners or private sellers/ ppl seeking exchange) use to ask for unreal fortune prices. They just want to make maximum out of us who are less previlaged.
As DOM correctly stated a real 9mm gun can be purchased for the price these guys ask for a whole metal CO2 powered BB/ .177 Pellet shooting gun.
The most frustrating part is that the government keeps the ban and restriction on the general public and keep them under surveilance all the time (as they claim) but all the terrorrists, underworld and quotation Gundas will have all possible powerful wepons with them and most of them carry these in public as well.

I feel its high time our govt review, revise and revisit the gun rules in India.
I love my country, repect and obey the rules set by the judiciary, but all i feel is that these rules are made cover to loot common people by some dealers and nexus with hidden plans and high contacts, ofcourse by violating may of these set laws.

Hope we will have the freedom to own atleast airguns in india without much restrictions, if not real ones.
Hope we will change, the govt will change, the officials will change...
I know these hopes are too good to be true... But still hope so...

TheGunsOfThePatriots wrote:@ DOM

Indian Government thinks normal people need small calibres and they are right.
Availablity of 9MMs, shows how relaxed a government is about their people's safety.

Do you really believe that the Indian Government cares about the safety of its citizens and our laws are a result of that "warm motherly caring attitude" of our Government?! Do you live in the same India that the rest of us call home??!!

Yes our government cares for the safety of its people, hence they make animal welfare laws to ensure 85% of worldwide rabies deaths occur in India (see - http://www.worldmapper.org/display.php?selected=237 )

Yes our government cares for the safety of its people, hence our top class highway designs/ road engineering coupled with lax traffic enforcement and non-existent formal training for drivers, etc. ensures that we top the world in deaths/ KM of highway travelled (see - http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/08/world ... wanted=all )

Yes our government cares for the safety of its people, hence they make laws, rules & policies that ensure that a criminal don in U.P. can acquire an illegal country pistol for as little as INR 200/-, a Chinese 9mm for INR 40-50,000/- or even AK-47 for INR 75,000/- BUT the law abiding folk must shell out many many times that amount for .32 cal pistols/ revolvers.

Hmm, you may have a point after all - if our government allowed law abiding citizens to arm themselves as well as the criminals who prey on them; it would make the work environment for criminals very hazardous indeed! After all, violent criminals are people too and it is amply clear that the government is actively looking after their safety needs.

Cheers!
Abhijeet

@ Abhijeet Sir,
There could not have been better words to describe the humiliation and sufferings meted out to law abiding citizens of our beloved country by these illogical laws.
Those words of yours gave solace to the sufferers of such laws, like us.
Regards,
Abbas

TheGunsOfThePatriots wrote:@ DOM

Indian Government thinks normal people need small calibres and they are right.
Availablity of 9MMs, shows how relaxed a government is about their people's safety.

@TGOTP:
I think with this comment you are trying to be little funny.

Do u think that with current laws we are completely safe. Relaxing these laws will atleast make innocent people to have something with them for their own & their family's safety.

People's safety can't be a logic/reason behind our stupid laws.

These laws are of the british times, when the govt dint want Indians to have guns as they might kill btitish officiaks