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the common practise to choosing the right pellet is to experimwnt with a variety of pellets and then choose the one that gives the user optimum performance to his/her choice. accuracy would be the main objective...though some would opt for power etc..

does the weight of the pellet ( what ever the shape...round, pointed, hollow etc..) play a role in this??? and what is the (weight of pellet) effect on the gun???

would the pellet of choice ideally be one of medium weight?? thus having no ill effects on the gun??

i dont know if i am making sense, but i what i am trying to figure out is; would the right weight pellet not only help in terms of accuracy etc but also not damage the gun...deiseling, damaged seals, broken springs etc.

a light pellet for example would give you high velocities but that will affect accuracy and also damage seals, springs because of deiseling,piston slam etc.

a heavy pellet, not to sure about its effect on accuracy, would also lead to danaged seals, broken springs also because of deiseling and piston bounce etc.

i am throwing out this question as i am not too sure myself. i have a 350 magnum in 22 and have read links that to get the best performace from these magnum powered guns is to use heavy pellets.

i am seriously begining to doubt this line of thinking.

given the problem with availibility of oem spares/ costs it would be helpful for some inputs.

i am sure this would also appliy to professionally tuned guns too. i am not implying that this problrm will happen only to home tuners who could over lube....unsized seals etc.

I have heard of heavy pellets weakening springs.

Why do you think an heavy or light pellet would diesel?

i am not to sure hamiclar01, but would not a heavier pellet create more resistence in the compression chamber..creating more heat??? a lighter pellet would over speed the action of the piston, again generating heat?? going by the tremendous heat/pressure within the chamber when the piston moves. dry or over lubed there must be some ignation hapening within. not clear myself.

i know this sounds very simplistic but am sure there is some thing there!!

thinking it over , not just weight but could fit of the pellet also be detremental to an air gun?? a tighter fit pellet..like ( but not neccessarily) a heavy pelet.. could create more resistence and a loose fit pellet..as a (again not neccessarily) light pellet.. not offering much resistence.


is pellet fit a different subject or is there a corelation.

would the ideal pellet be of a cetain weight and fit ??

what is interesting is that we do experiment with a variety of pellets before choosing the right one...AND THAT is being done more by the gun than us.

we could be damaging the gun by choosing a lighter pellet looking for more speed or using a heavier pellet looking for more knock down power.

For your D350 in .22, Crosman Premier/JSB Exact.

Both are supremely accurate. Choose the one that gives you around 875fps. Don't worry about damaging the Diana. She will easily shoot about 100,000 pellets before needing a rebuild. Even if you do break the spring/seal, they are cheap.

Some details....

http://www.airgunsofarizona.com/blog/20 ... ngers.html

M.

mercury wrote:the common practise to choosing the right pellet is to experimwnt with a variety of pellets and then choose the one that gives the user optimum performance to his/her choice. accuracy would be the main objective...though some would opt for power etc..

does the weight of the pellet ( what ever the shape...round, pointed, hollow etc..) play a role in this??? and what is the (weight of pellet) effect on the gun???

would the pellet of choice ideally be one of medium weight?? thus having no ill effects on the gun??

i dont know if i am making sense, but i what i am trying to figure out is; would the right weight pellet not only help in terms of accuracy etc but also not damage the gun...deiseling, damaged seals, broken springs etc.

a light pellet for example would give you high velocities but that will affect accuracy and also damage seals, springs because of deiseling,piston slam etc.

a heavy pellet, not to sure about its effect on accuracy, would also lead to danaged seals, broken springs also because of deiseling and piston bounce etc.

i am throwing out this question as i am not too sure myself. i have a 350 magnum in 22 and have read links that to get the best performace from these magnum powered guns is to use heavy pellets.

i am seriously begining to doubt this line of thinking.

given the problem with availibility of oem spares/ costs it would be helpful for some inputs.

i am sure this would also appliy to professionally tuned guns too. i am not implying that this problrm will happen only to home tuners who could over lube....unsized seals etc.

mercury wrote:i am not to sure hamiclar01, but would not a heavier pellet create more resistence in the compression chamber..creating more heat??? a lighter pellet would over speed the action of the piston, again generating heat?? going by the tremendous heat/pressure within the chamber when the piston moves. dry or over lubed there must be some ignation hapening within. not clear myself.

i know this sounds very simplistic but am sure there is some thing there!!

thinking it over , not just weight but could fit of the pellet also be detremental to an air gun?? a tighter fit pellet..like ( but not neccessarily) a heavy pelet.. could create more resistence and a loose fit pellet..as a (again not neccessarily) light pellet.. not offering much resistence.

Normally, if your springer is dieseling, the cure would be to use heavy pellets. Our gsmith pellets are on the heavy side with the .22 pellets being around 18 grains, I don't remember what the .177 weighed. I shoot a Co2 rifle and so haven't had to contend with this issue for years. Mine does around 650 fps with 15 grain crosman premiers...it likes the cheap hollow points.

Regards,

Dev

the article has the author using CPH which weighs in at 10.50 grns in .177 which is heavy.

the pellets you suggest are mid weight though. the CP is 14.3 grns and the JSB exact are 14.3 and 15.8grns.

as i mentioned earlier i was thinking loud and need to do more research onit.

Dev , i have also heard it said that heavy pellets cure dieseling. guess how heavy is not clear.

a .177 pellet usually starts around 6.5grns and goes on to around 12 grns with oneat 16grns.

a.22 pellet starts close 10 grns and goes on to 20 grns and a few more to 26 grns.

yes that would put the g smith on the heavy side. wonder how much a master shot weighs??

Quit musing and worrying........Start shooting...........That way you will enjoy the sport to its maximum..............

QED

M.

mercury wrote:the article has the author using CPH which weighs in at 10.50 grns in .177 which is heavy.

the pellets you suggest are mid weight though. the CP is 14.3 grns and the JSB exact are 14.3 and 15.8grns.

as i mentioned earlier i was thinking loud and need to do more research onit.

Dev , i have also heard it said that heavy pellets cure dieseling. guess how heavy is not clear.

a .177 pellet usually starts around 6.5grns and goes on to around 12 grns with oneat 16grns.

a.22 pellet starts close 10 grns and goes on to 20 grns and a few more to 26 grns.

yes that would put the g smith on the heavy side. wonder how much a master shot weighs??

no worries fantumfun, just musing. enjoy every minute of the shooting .

the musing is fascinating too....striping a rifle, figuring out the internals and fine tuning is as good as the shooting.

that feeling of satisfaction on bringimg out the optimum performance.....like good wine.

mercury wrote:no worries fantumfun, just musing. enjoy every minute of the shooting .

the musing is fascinating too....striping a rifle, figuring out the internals and fine tuning is as good as the shooting.

that feeling of satisfaction on bringimg out the optimum performance.....like good wine.

Hi Mercury,
> Any DIY is a fantastic experience - no intoxicant can give such an HIGH
> If all moving parts in your 350mag is functioning fine - there shouldn't be any damage caused due to pellets - not worth the worry.
> Perhaps if you stick to one pellet weight - may be 16gr then shooting will be a sweet experience.
> Believe it or not - my Samurai 3G spits out 16gr Magnashots smoothly & accurately - in fact at 30ft I can put a pellet where I want that too with open sights!
> Most of all treat your AR with respect & it will sing sweet music!
Cheers
Briha

thanks Briha. will stay with the mid weight 16 gr as you suggest.

some input from you on one more point will be appreciated.

smoke and a loud sound on firing is deiseling....ok???

just smoke and normal" piston thud" is ???? cumbustion??? and how harmful is that???