Indians For Guns

Hello,

I am interested to import one .22 caliber air-rifle from US.

First of all. Is it legal to get it imported through courier route ?

If yes, then what are the duties and how will we pay it through Fedex ?

What all documents will be needed to get it through ?

If anyone tried this before please share your experiences.

Warm Regards

Manal Sabri

Interesting...........I was thinking on the same lines too, knowing very well that .22s can't be imported through the post/ courier route. What if they are coming from another country, lets say Turkey or Bulgaria?

Sarcasm aside, do the Customs guys actually check it? Can they differentiate .22 from .177?

Katana wrote:
Sarcasm aside, do the Customs guys actually check it? Can they differentiate .22 from .177?

I was asked to display the calibre of my HW 45 by Delhi customs when I carried it as personal baggage.

And it was .22?

.177..... the calibre a HW45 is most prized in.

Manalsabri, please go through past posts on this topic. Members have even taken pains to put up notifications in this regard. Do not waste their efforts looking for a lazy quick answer

hamiclar01 wrote:.177..... the calibre a HW45 is most prized in.

Manalsabri, please go through past posts on this topic. Members have even taken pains to put up notifications in this regard. Do not waste their efforts looking for a lazy quick answer

Dear Hamiclar,

Thanks a lot.

Your reply acted as a wake-up call for my conscious.

Being new to this sports, I unintentionally put forward my innocent questions to the panel of experts and yes I was looking for direct(easy) resolutions. But taking credit off or wasting the efforts of original solution providers never crossed my conscious mind. But your interpretation of my unconscious self is a wonderful eye-opener.

Only if this in any way doesn't points to my lazy self please guide me to the thread dedicated for the import of .22 air-rifles.

Thanks and warmest regards.

Manal Sabri

Manal i think the customs are aware of the difference between a .177 and a .22-hence the courier route is just NO NO.cant say abt the personal baggage route because there are a lot of .22a that are put on sale etc by members who obviously manage to get them via the latter route.

manalsabri wrote:
But taking credit off or wasting the efforts of original solution providers never crossed my conscious mind. But your interpretation of my unconscious self is a wonderful eye-opener.

Better late than never.

My suggestion, to you and all newbies:

i. Set some time aside.
ii. Make yourself a drink.
iii. Log in to IFG.
iv. Start reading all the stickies in the airgun section related to choosing and importing air rifles. They are called stickies since they deal with Frequently asked questions., and they have been so positioned there so newbies read them FIRST
v. After trawling through the tons of posts, if doubts still remain, it simply means the topic is still open, based on personal interpretations and experiences. It also means you will not get a yes/no answer, and the more you ask around, the more confused you are going to be

andy_65_in wrote:Manal i think the customs are aware of the difference between a .177 and a .22-hence the courier route is just NO NO.cant say abt the personal baggage route because there are a lot of .22a that are put on sale etc by members who obviously manage to get them via the latter route.

Thanks a lot Andy.

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hamiclar01 wrote:

manalsabri wrote:
But taking credit off or wasting the efforts of original solution providers never crossed my conscious mind. But your interpretation of my unconscious self is a wonderful eye-opener.

Better late than never.

My suggestion, to you and all newbies:

i. Set some time aside.
ii. Make yourself a drink.
iii. Log in to IFG.
iv. Start reading all the stickies in the airgun section related to choosing and importing air rifles. They are called stickies since they deal with Frequently asked questions., and they have been so positioned there so newbies read them FIRST
v. After trawling through the tons of posts, if doubts still remain, it simply means the topic is still open, based on personal interpretations and experiences. It also means you will not get a yes/no answer, and the more you ask around, the more confused you are going to be

Dear hamiclar01,

Thanks for the master plan of "How to be a Pro from a Newbie in 5 easy steps.".

I will keep it and will surely copy paste it whenever any other poor newbie ask me anything and obviously with due credits to you.

Coming back to the point. I actually did some research on import of .177 air-rifle. I even managed to import a Gamo Whisper last month from pyramydair.

Now as part of growing up, I am looking forward to get a .22 imported through courier route. My concern is about the laws governing the process and the duties that needs to be paid. It seems that unlike .177, the process is not documented for .22.

The discussion in this thread will throw some light on this. There is atleast no harm in trying.

Warm Regards

Manal Sabri

rifle associations and club members can import .177 without paying import duty, there is no any restrictions as far as I know on import of .22 air gun, but it have to pass so called danda test. mean your rifle have to to be not powerful and pellet shot from this rifle should not go trough this danda. So in this case you can import .22 and you will ave to pay taxes. But in practice you better clear this question with custom. some times there is no caliber printed on rifle and custom says, if it is not .177 it cannot be cleared. I bet they can even show you the book, with some paragraph in it as a prove, of their opinion. what is for sure is that you will have deal with custom on your own. in my book it is risky, and does not worth of trying.

well chapter 93 of customs only mentions .177 so when i comes to .22 the law is ambiguous and at the discretion/interpretation of the customs officer. besides the customs people aren't as smart as they want to believe . most don't hv any idea of differentiating the caliber other then the invoice copy so importing one is not impossible but all bout luck i guess. I managed to import 2 air pistols at the same time one in .177 and one in .22

@malsabri please take time, read and understand this http://indiansforguns.com/viewtopic.php?t=3481

the law is ambiguous and at the discretion/interpretation of the customs officer.

Delegating discretionary powers to babus by legislature, creating confusing laws and making people forever fight among themselves is the art of our nexus of babus and politicians. Even our Constitution is written in such a manner so that people are not able to figure out that arms are our fundamental right acknowledged by our Constitution under Articles 19 and 21 and Arms Act 1959 is a law just to regulate this fundamental right only. Even Arms Act 1959/Arms Rules 1962 are written in such a cleverly confusing manner, so that most people cannot understand them and babus can make anything mean everything or nothing at pleasure.

Just search in google for "RKBA Article 19 21" the first result explains it in detail.

"Laws are made for men of ordinary understanding and should, therefore, be construed by the ordinary rules of common sense. Their meaning is not to be sought for in metaphysical subtleties which may make anything mean everything or nothing at pleasure" - Thomas Jefferson