Indians For Guns

Hi,

Can some one tell me what is the advantage of see through scope rings when compared to regular scope rings

JK

you can use both the sites ( assuming that both are zeroed for different Point of Impact)

optical Scope) as well as standard open sights provided on gun.

Example I uses standard sights for shorter ranges (sighted in at 50 yds )and while my scope is sighted in for 75 yds on my .22 IOF

Hi JKAmritraj,
> See through scope mounts gives you the option to use either the open sights or the scope.
> Normally open sights are good for targets upto 50yds - while scope is good for anything beyond that.
> If you have zeroed your open sights for 50yds - then you must zero your scope for 75yds.
> Check the point of impact (with scope zeroed at 75yds) at 100yds / 125yds / 150yds - then you can hold that much higher (you know this only after you shoot a few rounds) to hit the point of your aim.
> The best way is mark your scope's dial (both windage & elevation) with coloured markers for various distances. This way by judging the distance of your target you can adjust the scope for a perfect hit.
Cheers
Brihacharan

Thanks a lot Pritam and Brihacharan.That was very informative .Learnt something new today .

JK

See through mounts are for the undecided

The see through scope mounts were invented in the days when the scopes manufacturing technique was in it's infancy. The scopes weren't as reliable as the better ones are today. They often fogged when temperature fluctuated and lost their zeroes in inevitable jolts they endured during the hunts which too were generally on a horseback or bullock carts in the dark continent and the automobile as well had not evolved the way they are today. Most of the hunters went after dangerous trophies where quick shooting meant life and death. Hence this alternative. This whole system of see through iron sights from under the scope actually is the remnant of the days of yore and the some manufacturers cash on to that ignorance of the present shooters. One often sees a fine scoped rifle sans the iron sights which just proves how reliable the glass sights and the mounts have become over the years. I personally have not ever used the iron sights in last 25 years and my scopes have never failed me. Though I do have my reservations about certain manufacturers, my Leupold and Swarovsky and Jena rifle scopes never ever failed me in any situation. Honestly speaking I haven't got rid of any of my iron sights but that is because I like to keep my fire arm the way it was manufactured and delivered for retailing. A better alternative would be to have a tip off scope mounts which are capable of returning to the zero every time it is removed and reinstalled. The unnecessary increased height of the see thru mounts make target acquisition rather difficult. I'd rather one invested in a good quality rifle scope then go for such compromises. just IMH two bit opinion.
Cheers !!!
Marksman

Thanks Marksman for the input .While we are on the topic one more query !

What are the advantages of a single scope mount over the twin set scope mounts.
Which one is to be used when ?
JK

All depends on what rifle one intends putting scope onto. If it is a .22 LR rifle, one need not worry much about the high quality scope as all priced in medium range should do the trick. One can go for quick detachable ones generally called tip off mounts for 22 lr rifles. On high velocity medium rifles one can either go for one or two piece bases. the ring mounts are generally same on both. I personally prefer one piece rigidity like Leupold/Redfield Jr. mounts. One should put two piece base If one is weight conscious and intends trimming overall weight a wee bit.
Marksman

Thanks marksman.That was very informative and helpful.

JK

One piece?, or two piece? That's a question that hasn't been answered yet.
One piece advocates point to the "superior" rigidity of the one-piece; two-piece advocates will point out that the two-piece is fastened with four screws, versus the one-piece's three. As pointed out, the two-piece is a bit lighter in weight.
More importantly, it leaves more clearance for reloading of a bolt action. Important to a hunter. Where the action is not top loading, that is not a concern. Some bolt actions with the now so popular plunger-type ejector will throw the shell against the one-piece mount, and that can cause a jam.
As to the see-through mount, the original concern was to allow for quick shots over the open sights in thick brush and close range. Or a fogged/damaged scope. It appeals to the pessimist even today. Its main drawback is, that the scope is placed too high and your cheek won't be supported by the stock. That may not be as important as claimed, as today's popular monster scopes also require high mounts. German mounts used to be see-through, and much derided by American writers. Then, all of a sudden, see-through mounts were re-invented over here, and are obviously selling despite today's more reliable scopes.
Cheers.