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BSA under-lever Airgun

Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 10:13 am
by badshah0522
very expensive!!!Pata nahi Bharat kab tarakki karega.????

Hey guy if the prices for old air guns are so high then i would like to take an idea that what would be the value of my BSa Airgun Under lever.The condition is good.Can see in picture.A very high velocity airgun.once i tried it on maruti 800 door,the pellet crossed the metel sheet made a hole in it.Some old gentleman was saying that during there time this rifle was sold on Liscence .is it true??Can experts give some details-model,year of manufacturing.

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***Edited - Image moved to photobucket.com - Abhijeet***

Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 1:22 pm
by Mack The Knife
It is. Start a new thread pronto or it gets zapped.

Mack The Knife

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 11:58 am
by mundaire
Topic split from the Diana mod 36 thread... BadShah, be nice and start a new thread in such cases...

BTW - Interesting looking gun...

Cheers!
Abhijeet

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 12:02 pm
by Mack The Knife
Abhijeet,

Let them start a new thread in future. Otherwise they will expect us to keep doing it for them.

Anyway, on with the topic.

Mack The Knife

Re: BSA under-lever Airgun

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 2:23 pm
by kanwar76
Them....us..............Hmmmmm :roll: :roll: :evil:



:mrgreen:

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 3:00 pm
by badshah0522
Mack The Knife Bana";p="13414 wrote: It is. Start a new thread pronto or it gets zapped.

Mack The Knife
kanwar76";p="13599 wrote: Them....us..............Hmmmmm :roll: :roll:
Mack The Knife Bana";p="13592 wrote: Abhijeet,

Let them start a new thread in future. Otherwise they will expect us to keep doing it for them.

Anyway, on with the topic.

Mack The Knife
Sorry take care next time,As i was thinking when i ll arrange few more pics then i ll start a new thread over.so now i ll post them later when ill get them

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 5:45 pm
by shahid
In the old days 1930s to 1940s many such Air Rifles were manufactured in Brimingham by BSA, Webley & Scott and Greener.

It is called a Greener GP Martini Action.

Read an article in Air Gun World. Such a gun commands a price close to GBP 800 to 1000 from collectors now.

Jeffery and Cogswell & Harrison also made them / and or sold them. Most were in .177 calibre, some in .22. Others like .20 and .25 perhaps did not exist then.

Records suggest WW Greener made 832 of these guns. The no. 796 featured in the article was made in 1939.

Re: BSA under-lever Airgun

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 9:54 pm
by Mack The Knife
Badshah,

That looks like a BSA Lincoln Jeffries. Manufacture of these began in the early 1900's - 1905 or 1907, I forget which.

I may be wrong but I think Shahid's estimate is a bit too optimistic. 1/10 of his suggested prices is what it would fetch in the U.K. but I really could be wrong about this. Personally I doubt whether a mint example with the original box and papers would even fetch 300 quid.

The person who would really be able to tell you it's true worth is John Knibbs.
http://www.airgunspares.com/ Contact him if interested.

Mack The Knife

Re: BSA under-lever Airgun

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 10:02 pm
by Mack The Knife
kanwar76";p="13599 wrote:Them....us..............Hmmmmm :roll: :roll: :evil:
:mrgreen:
Yes, them and us.

'We' have to do the dirty work and it's time consuming and bloody irritating at times.

If you have any more comments to make, call me.

Mack The Knife

Re: BSA under-lever Airgun

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 10:04 pm
by penpusher
1.GP stands for Greeener Police

2.They were built on the martini action

3.They are shotguns

4.If you want one dirt cheap(comparitively speaking,I paid 15,000/- for mine) contact Grumpy

penpusher

Re: BSA under-lever Airgun

Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 3:06 pm
by kanwar76
Mack The Knife Bana";p="13630 wrote: If you have any more comments to make, call me.
Mack The Knife

I am not interested in doing suicide so early in my life.. :D :D

-Inder

Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 5:43 pm
by Olly
Its getting HOT !! :evil:

Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 12:20 am
by shahid
BSA started manufacture of this in 1908. Fished out another old copy of Air Gun World from my archives.

This BSA is featured there. The design was developed by the firm of Georege Lincon Jefferies of Birmingham. Model D was the most famous.

Standard. Light and Junior patterns were produced. In 1910 the price was GBP 1. 75.

A similar Air Rifle by WW Greener was sold by Sothbys in 2005 to a collector for GBP 800. Bid started at GBP 500.

Junior versions, in . 177 push 4.5 ft lb of energy.

For more Air Gun trivia visit www.archives.gla.ac.uk

Some of these were made for Army & Navy stores as well.

Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 11:26 am
by badshah0522
Hi Everyone,
Thanks for the information,I wish i could post few close up picture so that u ppl could have got correct idea.But i am not in India,so whenever i ll cum back i ll post them.

Mack The Knife i went through john knibbs site & found one picture of this gun in his banner,its the second picture from left in top row.showing the trigger adjusting screw.I already wrote to him requesting some details.

My friends Grandfather told me that when he bought the same model airgun it was endorsed on liscense. IS IT TRUE???any info in this regard??

Thanks,
badshah

Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 11:13 pm
by shahid
Maybe in the old days it was. There wa licence for swords too at a fee of Rs. 1.50 per annum but no one needs sword licences now. In old licence books of 1960s it existed.