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Are Airguns Weapons????

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 12:29 pm
by snIPer
Hi All,
Many a times we have come across this question - Are airguns Weapons? - Just a poll to check what the general view is on this.
Thanks
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Re: Are Airguns Weapons????

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 1:13 pm
by hvj1
The dictionary defines the word 'weapon' as a device designed to inflict injury or death of an opponent.
Therefore, if an airgun is used to inflict injury or death, then its definitely a weapon. But the same device used purely, specifically for sports, such as target shooting , then it cannot be labelled as a weapon. We can then concur, that the end use of the device ( in our case an airgun) determines wether it can be called a weapon.
Taking a case in point, an axe is definitely not a weapon, but when used to inflict injury or death, only then it will be called a weapon.
Finally, I would differ from the dictionary on the term 'opponent', instead of opponent, I would replace it with any living being, with locomotive abilities. The term then covers 'hunting' also, where an opponent is an animal which may not be an opponent in its literal sense, since it may be instead fleeing away from you rather than opposing you.
Very interesting connotation is it not?
Regards

Re: Are Airguns Weapons????

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 1:31 pm
by snIPer
You are right and I Was expecting something like that - anything is a weapon if used to harm / inflict injury etc...

Guns / bows and arrows etc are used for sports but are still weapons because their primary objective is to be used as a weapon - maybe because history has portrayed it so.

In my office there is a sign with a picture of a gun and a knife on it - it has a huge red X on it and states - weapons not allowed.

I guess this topic has no absolute conclusion.

Will those who have and will vote can please put in their thoughts too.
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Re: Are Airguns Weapons????

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 1:41 pm
by kb100
I guess general opinion is governed by two things..

a) by the primary purpose/application of the item in consideration.

b) by secondary threat perception.

In other words... things like a knife, gun, bow & arrow etc will always be considered a weapon by most, while things like a crowbar, axe, ice-pick, screwdriver etc will be considered deadly in certain situations.

As far as a killing 'implement' is concerned - even our SARI can be considered dangerous - one can use it to throttle someone. :mrgreen:

Re: Are Airguns Weapons????

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 2:21 pm
by Vikram
In the Indian context,the definition is relatively clear.It fails the Deel Wood test,it requires a license.In the eyes of law,it becomes a weapon. And,India is not unique in this regard.In UK, if an air rifle exceeds the 12F/lb power limit, it requires a Firearms Certificate. :roll: Doesn't make any sense to me.


Best-
Vikram

Re: Are Airguns Weapons????

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 4:16 pm
by fantumfan2003
Sniper

Then why bother setting up a vote ? A vote is when you have a clear choice to make not when you are confused.
I dont think an airgun is a weapon. I believe its an exquisitely crafted, precision tool for enjoying a recreational sport.

M.
snIPer wrote: I guess this topic has no absolute conclusion.
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Re: Are Airguns Weapons????

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 4:23 pm
by bandukbhandar
Dear friends

My request is not to run this thread any more, since already lot of people who are against air weapons are trying to get licence imposed on keeping air weapons.

By any means they are trying to convince judiciary and executive to get licence requirement for air guns.

Best wishes

Kezar Husen Bandukwala

Re: Are Airguns Weapons????

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 5:02 pm
by snIPer
fantumfan2003 wrote:Sniper

I dont think an airgun is a weapon. I believe its an exquisitely crafted, precision tool for enjoying a recreational sport.
M.
snIPer wrote: I guess this topic has no absolute conclusion.
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Good we have your view now.
It might not have a conclusion but will give a good idea of what the majority considers it as.
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Re: Are Airguns Weapons????

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 8:03 pm
by Subal das
in that question, I would add some good amount of healthy hypocrisy.

I think air guns is mostly like a toy guns, how toys can be a weapon. it is in fact not much different of those water guns used during Holi.

thinking of air guns as a weapons it is possible to end up considering anything as weapon. for example stone can be a weapon too, same time it is oldest construction material.

Because air guns does not meant to be a weapon, but only recreational and sport items - it is not a weapon.

Re: Are Airguns Weapons????

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 8:22 pm
by t20
Those who believe, airgun is a toy...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... -life.html

Happy and safe shooting!! Cheers!

Re: Are Airguns Weapons????

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 8:36 pm
by grewal
Well according to me air guns were not weapons till some time back but since there have been technological advancements in this category and gradually these airguns are crawling into magnum class so we can consider them as weapons. They are becoming lethal day by day. So it wont be wrong to tag them as weapons anymore.
bandukbhandar wrote:My request is not to run this thread any more, since already lot of people who are against air weapons are trying to get licence imposed on keeping air weapons.

By any means they are trying to convince judiciary and executive to get licence requirement for air guns.
If judiciary had been so involved into IFG that they may consider this thread as a big proof to categorize air guns as weapons and impose license for it , then I think there have been so many people pleading to open import of weapons which would have been done far ago. But nobody is here to listen to us from the government side. So Chill Man.

Re: Are Airguns Weapons????

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 8:55 pm
by ssc
My torn credit card at close range is the deadliest, Yes air gun is a weapon upto @ 70mtrs if used upon humans! :)
Also just before & after WW1 air guns were used for Assassinations. It all depends on your needs, What you want to do with it.

Re: Are Airguns Weapons????

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 8:57 pm
by Subal das
t20 wrote:Those who believe, airgun is a toy...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... -life.html

Happy and safe shooting!! Cheers!
exactly this kind of publications we no need in India
63 year old carpenter was jailed in UK too, for carry lockable folder knife

anything is a weapon !!! do I need need a license to carry my two hands with me??

Re: Are Airguns Weapons????

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 9:42 pm
by rover12
Licence to "carry my two hands..." ROTFL ROTFL ROTFL

Re: Are Airguns Weapons????

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 11:55 pm
by nash
rover12 wrote:Licence to "carry my two hands..." ROTFL ROTFL ROTFL
we can kill someone with our hands.... so may be soon there'll be a licence to carry our hands :lol: :lol:

If airguns are weapon ... then every object that we see is a weapon!!!