Expert Advice Needed

[gunner007]

Guys, I want to buy an air rifle and my budget is Rs.3500 (although I can extend it by 500 bucks more). While looking for some products online, I found some break-barrel air rifles and some underlever air rifles. Now, can anyone please explain to me the following:

1. What is an 'underlever' air rifle?

2. Are under-lever air rifles better than break-barrel air rifles?

3. Can anyone please tell me the names of some good air rifles(both break barrels and underlevers) along with their price and where to bu them in Kolkata?

I would really eally appreciate it if someone also gives me detailed explaination on what type of air-rifle would be the best buy for an amateur like me. Actually this will be my first gun and I don't want to waste money on "attractive guns" with no power, quality and range.

Please help.

[NILESH THAKUR]

Hi gunner007
1) Under lever airrifles has a lever under the barrel in the form of a rod the rifle looks like o/u double barrel rifle the cocking is done in same way just like break barrel rifle although some under leaver air rifles has the cocking leaver under the foreend stock like BSA AIRSPORTER
2)Leaver action airrifle has a fixed barrel while in the break barrels one needs to cock the gun by bending the barrel down if the gun is been used for a long period of time,the locking mechanism develops a play due to this if the gun is been fired the barrel slips from its locking mechanism due to which it looses it accuracy and it may also hurt some one SO I CAN SAY THAT LEVER ACTION IS MUCH BETTER THAN BREAK BARREL.
Their are various lever action air rifles like Under lever,side leverairguns check this out-http://www.diana-airguns.de/index.php?i ... eight=1050
If you really willing to buy an airrifle go for Diana model 54 Airking you will really enjoy shooting with this gun.
Thakur

[thomast1]

hey gunner,
a lot of information all across the pages here on this, however in short,
1) you don't break the barrel, instead use the lever under the barrel to cock the gun.
2) good question, but, no statistical data available to compare Indian made guns.
3) Break Barrel - IHP, Canon. Underlever - Jimmy, AIMCO.
http://www.aimco.co.in/ should let you order, and they are in Kolkata..

All guns made in India are good because they increase your want for more! thats all what i would say..

[hamiclar01]

2)Leaver action airrifle has a fixed barrel while in the break barrels one needs to cock the gun by bending the barrel down if the gun is been used for a long period of time,the locking mechanism develops a play due to this if the gun is been fired the barrel slips from its locking mechanism due to which it looses it accuracy and it may also hurt some one

Wow!! Where did you hear/see that?

[NILESH THAKUR]

i had an diana model 35 and a 27 and even a ihp airrifle i had face the same problem in all these guns specially in diana 35.

[gunner007]

Thanks a lot guys. But the Diana guns I guess, are foerign made, so I have to import it. And since I am neither a member of NRAI nor a holder of arms licence, it will be a bit of trouble for me. Moreover, if I can import the Diana under-lever airgun, will it cost way over my budget of 4000 bucks?
Please reply.

[hamiclar01]

i had an diana model 35 and a 27 and even a ihp airrifle i had face the same problem in all these guns specially in diana 35.

I think the quality of manufacture/maintainence of your diana or ihp is probably the problem rather than break barrel designs.If the barrel slips out due to repeated movement, should not the cocking lever of underlevers fall off with time as well?

Think about it, we'd never have any fwb 124/127 examples around at all if break barrels disintegrated with time!!!

[brihacharan]

2)Leaver action airrifle has a fixed barrel while in the break barrels one needs to cock the gun by bending the barrel down if the gun is been used for a long period of time,the locking mechanism develops a play due to this if the gun is been fired the barrel slips from its locking mechanism due to which it looses it accuracy and it may also hurt some one

Wow!! Where did you hear/see that?

Hi there!
> Pl. remember that any mechanism that uses fasteners (nuts, bolts, screws, levers etc) need periodic maintenance.
> The term "PREVENTIVE MAINTENANCE" is the mantra / gospel that every one who owns a gadget / equipment should follow.
> In the case of Air Rifles / Guns this practice is of supreme importance - because there is something called "WEAR & TEAR" through constant use / ill use or non use! Hence periodic lubrication and tightening of screws is imperative.
> Besides this if the gun after 'Cocking' does not retain the hold & slips - it means that due to consatant use the piston sear & the trigger blade have worn out. Thus resulting in slippage. It could also happen if the quality of metal used is sub-standard or chep / poor. This is dangerous as "AUTO FIRE" will take place - you may injure youself or God forbid some unsuspecting person standing close by or even far away.
> The solution to this is to:
1. Change the piston rod & trigger blade
2. Induction harden the piston sear & trigger blade - this will reduce the wear & tear to a great extent & loger periods of time.
> Incidentally GSmith owner once adviced me to tighten the 2 screws in the fore-end of the air rifle & the 1 screw at the trigger gaurd (these hold the gun's powerplant that's fixed on to the stock) after firing 200 / 300 GSmith pellets. More so if you have fitted a powerful spring in your gun.
> Take care of your gun - it's not a TOY - it's an armament.
Happy Shooting!
Cheers
Brihacharan

[to_saptarshi]

Hi gunner007,

In short Underlever Air rifles are fixed Barrel and cocking mechanism performed by a separate lever just under the barrel, where in break barrel , the barrel plays the role of cocking itself via a hinged lever. But just because of having fixed barrel, it does not qualify an underlever model of better accuracy. A poorly made underlever where barrel is not good or not properly aligned is much worse than a quality break barrel. Some of world’s best accurate guns are Break Barrel, where Most of the match rifles (Almost 99%) are fixed barrel (Not underlever exactly but they operate on a different mechanism) Theoretically and Technically Fixed Barrel are better design in terms of accuracy over times. But since you considering Indian make I would suggest you to stick for IHP brand. They are best among Indian make and will provide you a better accuracy in compare to other models available in market.

Kolkata is the den of local make Air rifles and they actually played a significant role when it comes for meeting the demands of local made air rifle all across India. You better talk to Joy Biswas in Aimco , they are the dealer of IHP rifles. Also Joy is a member here in IFG and he may give you some discount. Also you can talk to Anup Daw in AT Daw (Located in Lenin Sarani) He is a nice gentleman to do business, Another Person is Abhir Daw in NC Daw located at Dalhousi (But I found there product a little bit overpriced)
Hope this helps