IHP "National" air rifles & pistols

[shadowphaxone]

Hi,

My IHP air pistol is lubed every two weeks, on last week's maintainance, i happen to see that a small amount of oil gets blown off in between the barrel and the receiver........evidently, there is a leak, the barrel seal is a little scratched near its top portion............the amazing thing is that I DON'T FEEL ANY LOSS OF POWER in my pistol (may be it was there from the beginning & i didn't notice it!)

I had a search through IFG and found a thread posted by ARCHER......i also noticed that this thread has some discussion on this very subject ( Ref. Page 27 & 28 )......any way i am posting it here as this thread discusses the experiences with IHP machinery.......and i am re posting my questions to archer here...

1. whether i should try to repair it myself?
2. should i consult a local gunsmith who is destined to make my pocket empty?
3. should i leave it as it is?(if i do so, whether it will have any adverse effect on any of the other parts of the pistol?)

[Basu]

As i understand from this forum that IHP 35 is the best indian model to start with,yet i tested one i
found that the trigger is quite firm and it affects the shooting accuracy.can any one suggest
me wheather the same can be modified like Diana 48 smoothness.

[archer]

Hey shadowphaxone,

the problem with my rifle was that the lock that holds the barrel in position was damaged. I had it replaced by a gunsmith. As he did not have a regular latch he used a spring and ball bearing attachment. I think that is what you are referring to.

HTH.

Regards,

Parag

[shadowphaxone]

Hey shadowphaxone,

the problem with my rifle was that the lock that holds the barrel in position was damaged. I had it replaced by a gunsmith. As he did not have a regular latch he used a spring and ball bearing attachment. I think that is what you are referring to.

HTH.

Regards,

Parag

Hii Parag

No, i don't my air pistol does not have any problem with the locking system. its the 'O' type seal(synthetic seal?) that has had some disintegrating.........I will try to post pics as soon as possible.

-- Tue Apr 14, 2009 3:17 am --

Here are the pics. Sorry for the quality. My mobile camera was the only thing that i could lay my hand up on in the middle of the night!!!. I had to hold the camera & hold the cocked pistol steady at the same time......Hope it gives you a clear idea of the problem...

[ScoutSniper]

So actually the air leaks while shooting the bullet!? leading to loss of power ?

[TenX]

Hey shadowphaxone,

the problem with my rifle was that the lock that holds the barrel in position was damaged. I had it replaced by a gunsmith. As he did not have a regular latch he used a spring and ball bearing attachment. I think that is what you are referring to.

HTH.

Regards,

Parag

Hii Parag

No, i don't my air pistol does not have any problem with the locking system. its the 'O' type seal(synthetic seal?) that has had some disintegrating.........I will try to post pics as soon as possible.

-- Tue Apr 14, 2009 3:17 am --

Here are the pics. Sorry for the quality. My mobile camera was the only thing that i could lay my hand up on in the middle of the night!!!. I had to hold the camera & hold the cocked pistol steady at the same time......Hope it gives you a clear idea of the problem...

Shadow...
What ring washer/seal you are referring to is actually a very important part of the air packing in Indian guns, and most break-barrels. If it has become uneven, it could lead to a substantial loss of power. But since you claim to notice no loss, I would suggest you use it for a while longer and see. Maybe there was some excess power delivered, which is leaking just fine This logic may seem strange, but if the leak is not harming the shots, then better leave it as is.
If and when you have to change, you would have to replace it as described by other members on the forum. As vaguely as I remember, it should be one of Mack The Knife's post, wherein there was some description on how to change the seal.
I have also posted some pics of a self-made washer, made out of a tube which is available for photocopying machines. The material is extremely durable, as they are used as roller coverings in fast constant machines, and are supposed to last pretty long. One such short tube should cost within 20 rupees, and you could make a half dozen seals

[shadowphaxone]

So actually the air leaks while shooting the bullet!? leading to loss of power ?

It's actually a coincidence that, i fired my air pistol after lubing, in to a lighted area, that i noticed that there was a small amount of gun oil spray coming out from the receiver. I had gone through Posts in IFG on How to detect Power loss in Air Guns and i immediately realized the problem. Hence reported the post pronto...

About the loss of power part..........I don't know, because i still (Till yesterday, when i last shot with it...) dont fell any loss, After an 8 meter shot, the pellant makes a very clean cut on 2 inches of thermocol sheet after going through a paper target and then hits a ply wood back stop and still leaves a depression mark on surface of the plywood...

Maybe it had been leaking from the time it was purchased and i didn't notice...

Shadow...
What ring washer/seal you are referring to is actually a very important part of the air packing in Indian guns, and most break-barrels. If it has become uneven, it could lead to a substantial loss of power. But since you claim to notice no loss, I would suggest you use it for a while longer and see. Maybe there was some excess power delivered, which is leaking just fine This logic may seem strange, but if the leak is not harming the shots, then better leave it as is.
If and when you have to change, you would have to replace it as described by other members on the forum. As vaguely as I remember, it should be one of Mack The Knife's post, wherein there was some description on how to change the seal.
I have also posted some pics of a self-made washer, made out of a tube which is available for photocopying machines. The material is extremely durable, as they are used as roller coverings in fast constant machines, and are supposed to last pretty long. One such short tube should cost within 20 rupees, and you could make a half dozen seals

TenX

Thanks for the post...I agree with you on your idea of letting the pistol do as it did...

It would be helpful if you could post the TITLE or link of the articles written by Mack The Knife and yourself....It would be great if you could post the correct product name of the TUBE(for clear communication with the salesman), and where to look for them(Photocopy machines spare parts shops/service centers???)

[TenX]

Found the topic.... here it is:
http://indiansforguns.com/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=4679

I dont know the exact spare part name of the roller ... but maybe asking for a roller and giving a brief description should help .. in spare part shops

[archer]

You could check at some zerox shops. They tend to stock a few spares. They may be able to help you with the name of the part.

Parag

[sethupathy]

Hi Guys, can anyone tell me where to modify my National Air Rifle, like to fix telescope, to make power shots etc..... since very new to this site


Thanks and regards

Sethu

[shadowphaxone]

Hi Guys, can anyone tell me where to modify my National Air Rifle, like to fix telescope, to make power shots etc..... since very new to this site


Thanks and regards

Sethu

Hi Sethupathy,

WELCOME TO IFG!!!

I am sure you would find interesting articles regarding your queries right inside this site. All you have to do is browse through the site topics and have the patience to go through all the posts and comments of the relevant thread. The first place i would recommend to you is the Gun Care & Gunsmithing section. I am sure that all members of IFG would certainly be there if you need further help.

P.S. - DON'T forget to read the Expected Code of Conduct on IFG section

All the best

[da_freaky_dude]

hi everyone,
i m new in this site... this site is very good and great
my first post was abt hw to get a airarms s410.22 cal in assam... i got the information required.. but it seems impossible to get it it here... so i m planning to buy a I.H.P - 35 AIR RIFLE DELUXE MODEL.. please tell me the price of this model.. and i also wanted to know that how it will be.. is it a good gun ?? i need it only for pest control.. will it be able to take down big games.. nd yes can i mount a scope on it..??if yes what scope should i mount on ?? i also wanted to ask u all gurus sitting there .. what will be the fps of that gun?? i guess it will not be less then 900 fps and please suggest me some good quality pellets what will be suitable for that particular gun.. nd yes please suggest me some good hunting pellets that will be easily available here.. i hope so i will get that gun in tinsukia (assam)
thanks in advance..
waiting for ur replies..

[kanwar76]

Hi Dude,

I suggest you read previous topics under airguns. IHP is not a 900FPS gun and no it won't be able to take down BIG GAME, BTW just to let you know Hunting is banned in INDIA so you are breaking law if you are kiling anything other than rats or crows.

Please read previous topics to understand IHP 35 and hunting laws in INDIA.

-Inder

[mundaire]

The only pests one can legally shoot are those listed in Schedule V of the Wildlife protection Act, viz crows & rats. This should be able to do the job for both.

Am merging this post with the ongoing thread on IHP air-rifles & pistols, you should be able to find more info by going through some of the older posts on this thread.

Cheers!
Abhijeet

[shakravenrider]

Recently I bought a IHP National 0.22 35 Air rifle, I have been using air rifles from long time, I need to know how far I can shoot with this, as the guy said 200 feet.