PreciHole AirGun Review

[joybiswas]

Why does a member (brihacharan) who has no role in decision making at Aimco and Precihole, is defending the price increase by Aimco enterprise. Something fishy here.

Hi bandukbhandar honestly being a fellow retailer you must be aware of the fact that as resellers we donot have any hand in changes in price. Further the price is still the same only they have removed the discount on orion. In your previous post you yourself have mentioned that ihp was being sold at your place till jan 2012 above 7000 here at aimco we were still selling the same in jan at mrp viz 5600 so lets not talk about 'fishy' business!!!
So my request to you is please before making an allegation on anyone think about it, criticise any post you find fit but drawing conclusions at someone is not apt please restrain in the future

[brihacharan]

Why does a member (brihacharan) who has no role in decision making at Aimco and Precihole, is defending the price increase by Aimco enterprise. Something fishy here.

Hi bandukbhandar honestly being a fellow retailer you must be aware of the fact that as resellers we donot have any hand in changes in price. Further the price is still the same only they have removed the discount on orion. In your previous post you yourself have mentioned that ihp was being sold at your place till jan 2012 above 7000 here at aimco we were still selling the same in jan at mrp viz 5600 so lets not talk about 'fishy' business!!!
So my request to you is please before making an allegation on anyone think about it, criticise any post you find fit but drawing conclusions at someone is not apt please restrain in the future

Thanks Joy for knocking some sense into those who make 'allegations' without a sense of prorpiety & discipline
Briha

[ruchirtnt]

So my request to you is please before making an allegation on anyone think about it, criticise any post you find fit but drawing conclusions at someone is not apt please restrain in the future

Hi joy, i am looking to buy a precihole orion and want delivery in lucknow, i have been talking to you on emails too. can you suggest me that is the packing send in Wooden box or a cardboard box and secondly how will the warranty or repairs be taken care of or if it is found damaged in transit. can i get it repaired at a local shop in lucknow

[joybiswas]

hi ruchirtnt all airrifles are sent in a reusable wooden box, we charge you 300 for the same so that the goods are not damaged in transit. The price of the orion is 9500+300 for the wooden box freight will be 500 extra for door delivery to your location at lucknow. It can never be damaged in transit as gati roadways ensures that, besides there is a manufacturer's warranty for 6months.

[mercury]

many of us have waited a long time for reviews of precihole rifles . TenX has made an effort to do and what was found lacking in the review was his report on the rifles accuracy. a few of us had asked TenX to complete the review with supporting pictures of the rifles grouping with different pellets.

now where is this thread headed.....

we have joybiswas posting what a great rifle it is , what a great trigger it has and how some of his customers prefer a manual safety. it is also good to know the orion costs 9500 + 300 +500 and that gati will ensure that the rifle will not be damaged in transit....

thank you joybiswas...now can you please tell me how the orion groups with different pellets ?????

or is it just the commercial interest that you have admitted to yourself that has you posting on this thread ???? i have no issues with that...only do so on another thread.

[AbbasRiz]

hi ruchirtnt all airrifles are sent in a reusable wooden box, we charge you 300 for the same so that the goods are not damaged in transit. The price of the orion is 9500+300 for the wooden box freight will be 500 extra for door delivery to your location at lucknow. It can never be damaged in transit as gati roadways ensures that, besides there is a manufacturer's warranty for 6months.

Hi ! dear Joy Biswas,
I am very happy that you are very prompt in replying to various queries concerning PreciHole Air Rifles. During the last week , you have responded several times, even confronting once with BandukBhandar.

On the contrary, when I posted through couple of threads at this forum ( several months back) about how Aimco does not mention the serial No. of the sold IHP air rifles in the hand-written Invoices, you never bothered to reply, despite my repeated requests.

In those posts, I had mentioned that it is risky to carry the Air Rifle, even though accompanied with the Invoice. In case there was a routine security check by the police at the barricades, even if I show them the invoice, they will ask me to prove that the invoice belongs to the Air Rifle carried by me.

When you purchase a television or a fridge from an electronic shop, the salesman clearly mentions the product's Serial Number on Invoice itself. If you purchase a computer, its serial No. is mentioned in the invoice.

You should have shown the same type of promptness that time also, as you are showing now in connection with Precihole ARs.

Regards,
Abbas

[SriramK]

I'm sorry for moving the topic off the review and into the prices, but could off-topic queries to Mr. Joy Biswas be posted on a different thread from now please? This thread has been hijacked quite a few times now

Back to topic-

We are only opting for the manual safety as the majority of the users donot like the automatic safety as they need to turn it off at every shot, you can always switch back to automatic safety, but i think for airrifles manual safety is the best choice. If customers want we will start opting for automatic satefy also.

I'm not sure what you mean by "always switch back to automatic safety". Does the air rifle allow users to switch the safety from manual to automatic? Or should I purchase the automatic if I want automatic, and manual if I want manual?

[Moin.]

Pardon my ignorance, can I ask a probably dumb question because I don't know to all the AR experts here. Normally when one buys, one would prefer to check out and handle a few similar pieces to check for any small manufacturing defects or small flaws in the finishing etc specially when the products out of a small manufacturing unit. How's the quality control on the products leaving the factory. I mean if one orders online is one ensured of uniformity in quality ie all AR's will be the same vis a vis going to a store, screening a few and then making a purchase.

I'm not sure If I've framed my question correctly, but I hope you gents get the drift.Thanks in advance.

Secondly, I'm drawing an analogy here with the Mahindra Thar. When it was launched Behram Debhar was butchered left and right in Team BHP forums. The product was and is still unique in the market and I would love to own one some day, but Mahindra went back to the drawing board and added an AC.

Is preciHole based on market feedback going to update or improve the product or all what was needed has already been done. Is it prudent purchasing now or later like one would for a newly launched car or even a mobile.

What are the other products in the pipeline.

Thanks



Regards
Moin.

[SriramK]

Is preciHole based on market feedback going to update or improve the product or all what was needed has already been done. Is it prudent purchasing now or later like one would for a newly launched car or even a mobile.

Nothing breeds innovation like competition. Now that Precihole is here, time will tell if they're indeed a worthy opponent to IHP, and if they can stand up to international quality.
I really hope this turns into an IHP vs Precihole innovation race We really could use healthy competition to up the ante.

[joybiswas]

On the contrary, when I posted through couple of threads at this forum ( several months back) about how Aimco does not mention the serial No. of the sold IHP air rifles in the hand-written Invoices, you never bothered to reply, despite my repeated requests.

In those posts, I had mentioned that it is risky to carry the Air Rifle, even though accompanied with the Invoice. In case there was a routine security check by the police at the barricades, even if I show them the invoice, they will ask me to prove that the invoice belongs to the Air Rifle carried by me.

When you purchase a television or a fridge from an electronic shop, the salesman clearly mentions the product's Serial Number on Invoice itself. If you purchase a computer, its serial No. is mentioned in the invoice.

You should have shown the same type of promptness that time also, as you are showing now in connection with Precihole ARs.

Regards,
Abbas

Hi abbas i donot know which post you are referring to as i may not have read it, if you had send me an email or pm i would have posted on the same. Ihp is already a favourite brand there was no need for a additional promotion, whereas precihole is a new brand and we need people to be aware of the product so they can use there own discretion to choose their brand of airrifle. I am a dealer for Ihp as well as for precihole so i promote both. Regarding serial number no one has ever objected to not mentioning the same on the the invoice as along with the invoice we handover the ihp warranty card with the serial number embrossed on it. we fillup the dealers portion and the customers address details can be filled up the customer and posted to Ihp. Further never did any customer have any warranty issues with ihp for the serial not being mentioned on the invoice. We agree to your suggestion and will mention the serial number on all invoices issued in the future thanx for the feedback.

[joybiswas]

many of us have waited a long time for reviews of precihole rifles . TenX has made an effort to do and what was found lacking in the review was his report on the rifles accuracy. a few of us had asked TenX to complete the review with supporting pictures of the rifles grouping with different pellets.

now where is this thread headed.....

we have joybiswas posting what a great rifle it is , what a great trigger it has and how some of his customers prefer a manual safety. it is also good to know the orion costs 9500 + 300 +500 and that gati will ensure that the rifle will not be damaged in transit....

thank you joybiswas...now can you please tell me how the orion groups with different pellets ?????

or is it just the commercial interest that you have admitted to yourself that has you posting on this thread ???? i have no issues with that...only do so on another thread.

Hi mercury i cannot provide information on groups as i only have 5.5mm in precihole and all rifle clubs donot allow 5.5mm at their range, I admit being off track with my post as one post led to another, i mentioned about the price as i was asked about it by a fellow ifgian. I take the clue and this is my last post on this forum.....

[SriramK]

Hi mercury i cannot provide information on groups as i only have 5.5mm in precihole and all rifle clubs donot allow 5.5mm at their range, I admit being off track with my post as one post led to another, i mentioned about the price as i was asked about it by a fellow ifgian. I take the clue and this is my last post on this forum.....

Don't take it too personally Mr. Joy, everyone's just grumpy they can't get their hands on a Precihole yet, and a bit jealous of people who already have a few of these rifles. I know I am



I'd love to see some more info on how well this rifle shoots, but I admit I got distracted with the pricing.
No one can please everyone. Even God couldn't, that's why there are so many different religions. That said - your contributions are appreciated by a few and not appreciated by a few, no reason to stop contributing. When you stop contributing to those few, and are here only to bring down everyone's experience in the forum - that's when you have to quit.
I for one like getting first hand information from dealers about the products they have to offer.
It'd be great to see these rifles being available everywhere. Two weeks to go

[AbbasRiz]

On the contrary, when I posted through couple of threads at this forum ( several months back) about how Aimco does not mention the serial No. of the sold IHP air rifles in the hand-written Invoices, you never bothered to reply, despite my repeated requests.

In those posts, I had mentioned that it is risky to carry the Air Rifle, even though accompanied with the Invoice. In case there was a routine security check by the police at the barricades, even if I show them the invoice, they will ask me to prove that the invoice belongs to the Air Rifle carried by me.

When you purchase a television or a fridge from an electronic shop, the salesman clearly mentions the product's Serial Number on Invoice itself. If you purchase a computer, its serial No. is mentioned in the invoice.

You should have shown the same type of promptness that time also, as you are showing now in connection with Precihole ARs.

Regards,
Abbas

Hi abbas i donot know which post you are referring to as i may not have read it, if you had send me an email or pm i would have posted on the same. Ihp is already a favourite brand there was no need for a additional promotion, whereas precihole is a new brand and we need people to be aware of the product so they can use there own discretion to choose their brand of airrifle. I am a dealer for Ihp as well as for precihole so i promote both. Regarding serial number no one has ever objected to not mentioning the same on the the invoice as along with the invoice we handover the ihp warranty card with the serial number embrossed on it. we fillup the dealers portion and the customers address details can be filled up the customer and posted to Ihp. Further never did any customer have any warranty issues with ihp for the serial not being mentioned on the invoice. We agree to your suggestion and will mention the serial number on all invoices issued in the future thanx for the feedback.

Dear Joy Biswas,
Following is the thread mentioned in my post.
http://www.indiansforguns.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=18395
I had pointed towards this in some others threads also.
Regards,
Abbas

[AbbasRiz]

Dear Joy Biswas,
Kindly see concerning posts on another thread, as mentioned below. It is on Topic ( IHP "National" air rifles & pistols ) page 65.

The thread is ;

http://www.indiansforguns.com/viewtopic ... &start=960

Regards,
Abbas

[SriramK]

Abbas Sir,
Please don't hijack this thread, and don't copy+paste walls of text from a different post. A link would be sufficient, but in the right thread too. You've posted here after a few days of Mr. Joy saying that he will not post on this forum anymore, and you have gone off topic, and filled the page with text from the whole page of a different topic. Please edit it out, and replace it with a link.
Contact Mr. Joy via telephone, your bill would have a contact number. This forum isn't Mr. Joy's business portal. He isn't required by any law to read any of the posts here or respond to them. If he does, it is purely out of his own interest, you cannot expect him to have seen any of your previous posts/this post.