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1974Phantom
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by 1974Phantom » Wed Jan 28, 2015 4:08 am
bennedose wrote:I believe I am in a somewhat unique position - although I cannot comment on the Scorpius. I have an Orion, IHP 35 and a SDB 65 (all in 0.22) which are all less than 18 months old and I have put them through their paces using up literally thousands of pellets - I estimate about 5-6000 pellets. I would like to add the name of the manufacturer SDB to the list of the top 3 Indian brands - I have used an old SDB for 23 years and now I have a brand new one.
I would like to pass my judgement on my experiece with these brands.
In terms of power, it sems to me that none of them is way way more powerful than any other. In general I found the Orion to be marginally more powerful than the IHP 35 but my new SDB 65 seems to be the most powerful out of box (albeit tuned a bit at kovibazaar). But all in all there is hardly any difference in power in terms of fps. Maybe 5%. But the biggest significant difference is in bore size. The Orion accepts the broadest pellets - GSmith and Precipell. The SDB chokes on them - they are too tight. They are a bit tight on the IHP 35.
What this means in practice is that the IHP 35 and the SDB tend to be best with the lighter/narrower pellets like Mastershot round head, MS Wadcutter, AIMCO and Marshalshot flat head. I use only Preipell on the Orion. So the power cannot really be compared because the lighter pellets seem to retain more velocity at 10 meters, but at 15-20 meters the heavier pellets (Orion) carry more punch. If you are looking for difference in power - I would not bother. All of them are about the same. You will not miss power because you bought X brand and not Y brand
About accuracy I want to point out that all are equally accurate - but here I have found a curious thing. I need low power glasses to see the front sight clearly - and the target is usually slightly blurred. The rear sight too is slightly blurred but that does not matter because al I need is to see the foresight post clearly and center it perfectly. And here is the biggest difference between the rifles. Because of different barrel lengths - the longer length of the SDB barrel seems most comfortable to my eyes using my glasses. The shorter barrel lengths of the IHP 35 and Orion are such that my aim tends to go off just a bit with the Orion and IHP 35. So this has become a matter of comfort for me. I am most comfortable with the SDB sights; Orion is second and IHP is third (for me). Another point aboout accuracy is that ONLY Gsmith, Precipell, Wadcutter, AIMCO and Marshal shot flat head pellets work well for me in accuracy. ALL other pellets - including MS export are useless in my hands through my rifles.
About quality. Orion has a super build, it is light, no loose parts. It is a dream to cock and the power is tremendous despite the easy cocking. But the hexagonal screws need to be tightened every 15-20 shots. The hexagonal screw fixing the trigger sometimes tends to come loose and you can lose the trigger unless you keep checking. (Someone on IFG actually lost the trigger)
IHP 35 has given me the worst experience so far, quality-wise. It is powerful and easy to cock but it had a lot of failures and factory QC defects. The pin holding the cocking lever to the underside of the barrel was loose and used to gouge out an arc of wood from the fore-part of the wodden butt. It nearly fell out once. But the fixing screws lost their threads and finally the welding that helps to fix the barrel to the stock failed both front and back and required to be re welded.
I had no major issues with the SDB 50 that I used for 23 years and it was a dream to shoot even after I did much to its insides. The SDB 65 is looking equally good.
Ultimately if you have to make a choice, here is my opinion
If you have the money and or feel you are small built and need a compact rifle, go for a Precihole. It comes with grooves for a scope - a great plus point
A budget rifle with great power and accuracy - suitable for a person with longer arms would be the SDB. The SDB 65 and higher models even come with a peep sight which is an added bonus.
The IHP 35 is an, accurate, powerful rifle - but given my experience- I would rate the SDB higher for being less expensive.
My IHP with Scope Groves I love it I mean at 5k differece there is not so much difference besides i did not like the fibre stock of NX1001
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pratik_mahale
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by pratik_mahale » Wed Jan 28, 2015 2:55 pm
Congratulation for your new gun
Please post the close photo of Scope Groves
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GNV
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by GNV » Tue Feb 03, 2015 9:30 pm
I was surprised to find complaints about Precihole Sports' attitude towards their customers. Even though I have not contacted them in the past 18 months my experiences with the company were very pleasant. My experiences make me believe that they go even out of their way to redress their customers' grievances. May be they changed.......
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chengis gun
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by chengis gun » Thu Feb 05, 2015 9:24 pm
To all cocerned:
friends, recently i brought a Precihole Sx100 .22 from a shop and gifted it.While selecting it i got to test one more SX100 and a NX100 .22 and found their aim questinable eve after sighting in.Now i want an NX100 .22 and an online company AIMCO sells it at a steep discount(5k less compared to shop).My question is, is AIMCO a reliable company and how are their products.Is it better to buy from local shop after testing myself(which they allow since they know me)or will aimco do..?
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AnandNair
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by AnandNair » Thu Feb 05, 2015 11:00 pm
chengis gun wrote:To all cocerned:
friends, recently i brought a Precihole Sx100 .22 from a shop and gifted it.While selecting it i got to test one more SX100 and a NX100 .22 and found their aim questinable eve after sighting in.Now i want an NX100 .22 and an online company AIMCO sells it at a steep discount(5k less compared to shop).My question is, is AIMCO a reliable company and how are their products.Is it better to buy from local shop after testing myself(which they allow since they know me)or will aimco do..?
AIMCO is reliable as per my experience and will ship the product fast and in very good packing.
Every rifle is different and minor variations in aim point is bound to occur. However since precihole air rifles are now standardised product the difference would be minor and can be easily rectified.
IMHO for 5 k difference, i would throwin a case / or pellets and few spares like piston washer etc.
Some learn by reading. A few by observation. The rest of 'em have to pee on the electric fence.
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bennedose
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by bennedose » Fri Feb 06, 2015 6:39 am
chengis gun wrote:To all cocerned:
friends, recently i brought a Precihole Sx100 .22 from a shop and gifted it.While selecting it i got to test one more SX100 and a NX100 .22 and found their aim questinable eve after sighting in.Now i want an NX100 .22 and an online company AIMCO sells it at a steep discount(5k less compared to shop).My question is, is AIMCO a reliable company and how are their products.Is it better to buy from local shop after testing myself(which they allow since they know me)or will aimco do..?
Sounds like the shop is overcharging.
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Basu
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by Basu » Fri Feb 06, 2015 8:34 pm
Not only overcharging but thinking customers are all fools.
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chengis gun
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by chengis gun » Sat Feb 07, 2015 3:26 pm
Actually shop was quoting 9k higher than online price by aimco..i bargained it down by 4k
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utsav
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by utsav » Thu Aug 25, 2016 10:02 am
abulkazad wrote:Thank you....But can you please explain in detail why Club Elite is better than Polaris for Target Practice?
It because there is only 10 meter distance in international air rifle shooting. Polaris have muzzle velocity of 800FPS vs Club elite has 600FPS ,so less recoil . in Target practice you need accuracy not power. so you should use Club elite.