Not sure its available in Bangalore (yet). If it is, would love to scoop up one as well.It would be great if you could also tell me how much it would cost to buy the Pegasus in Bangalore.
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Re: Precihole Offerings
Hi SriramK: Welcome to IFG.
I own two IHP 35s in .177 for many years now and have been thrilled to bits with them. The only downside to IHP in general is the trigger. It's like pulling on a brick wall. Still, you get used to it and stoning the IHP trigger is not recommended.
I had the opportunity of trying out the Precihole Club a couple of weeks ago (three of them). I didn't write a review because I didn't have a camera/ Chrony/ other measuring tools and decide to hold off till such time as I could do a real review with real numbers and pictures.
Also, the Precihole owners club was annoying people with their "hole-in-hole" and "just you wait and see" childishness. I can entirely empathize with their enthusiasm, but felt that they were, in a sense, damaging the brand by not giving us the objective evaluation we were all looking for and I didn't want to add to the subjectivity.
So, on the understanding that this is merely a report of First Impressions on handling and shooting the Precihole Club and that you will not believe anything quantitative that I say; here goes -
The stock
The Precihole Club weighs in at something between the weight of an IHP 25 and an IHP 35 ( the exact weights should be on their respective websites).
It comes to the shoulder very easily. The stock is black and synthetic and feels decent.
There are pimples on all the grip areas . This is a good design feature as checkering/stippling on synthetics is often sharply cut and can hurt after a long session.
The stock screws are all recessed and angled into the stock body. The screws are all Allen ( so you will need an Allen key for doing anything to it). There are star washers between the screw heads and the stock body; a good thing.
As reported by others I too felt that the stock looked a bit tacky at first glance. The reason for this became clear immediately. To make the butt pad comfortable the designer has added a piece of softer polymer to the butt of the stock. This "butt pad" is glued on and some of the glue has streaked on the rest of the stock. A couple of draws of a thumbnail across the glue and the stock looked great.
The cheek-piece is high enough to get a good sight picture ( I have a long face and a fat head ) and should be good with a scope.
One feature I really liked is that the underside of the forestock - just afore the trigger guard - is flattened and splayed out a bit. Superb if you like shooting off your fist FT style. It feels very much like an FT badger attachment
The trigger
The trigger guard is generous, so much so that I didn't even notice it - I have long fingers.
The trigger blade is long and more vertical than it is curved - I personally like this design.
There is a trigger safety blade afore of the actual trigger. The safety was manual and you can choose to engage it/ or not.
I'll tell you how the trigger performs under Operating Behavior below.
The trigger is almost certainly a double/multiple sear one and seems adjustable. There was no instruction sheet so I didn't try adjusting it. All three triggers I operated were set at different points so I guess they should be adjustable.
The sights
The front sight blade is much narrower than on the IHPs and perfect for target shooting.
The sight blade is enclosed in a tunnel hood and the entire assembly sits in a muzzle brake format over the muzzle. There's probably a grub screw holding it down somewhere. The crown is fully protected.
The entire unit is made from a sturdy polymer and I don't foresee any damage related issues with it.
The rear sight is very well done. Both elevation and windage screws move easily with positive clicks (the windage screw on the IHPs can draw blood).
The notch on the rear sight is square and I felt it could have had sharper edges. The notch unit and the sight body seem to be polymer and the adjustment screws and internals metal. Again, I don't think sturdiness will be an issue.
The barrel
Externally, the barrel appears to have the same diameter as the IHP. It's sweated onto a rectangular block like the IHP.
The cocking link is an articulated two piece one - an improvement over the IHP, I think.
The block is obviously shimmed with washers on both sides (see operating behavior below) unlike the IHPs.
The barrel is held by chisel detents, like the IHP, although I feel the chisels are narrower - although adequate.
The loading port is really good. Unlike the IHP where you have to push the pellet into the land and grooves of the barrel with some force, here the pellet easily drops in.
The loading port is surrounded by a nitrile O Ring of standard Parker dimensions - easily available in Auto Supply shops for less than a Rupee.
The O Ring is perfectly centered around the loading port unlike a couple of Diana 34s I saw recently.
The barrel seems really well cut - the twists are clean and visible. To the naked eye it appears the twist rate may be higher than in the IHP. On the other hand it may not be. Don't believe a word I say that involves measurement and numbers.
The receiver
The receiver is all metal and finished a tad better than the new IHPs. On my old IHPs the finish is comparable. Not totally free from grinding marks but very decent.
The Precihloe logo is cut into the receiver and highlighted in white paint - a tad too bold and garish for my taste, but nothing a couple of strokes with a Sharpie pen can't fix.
There's a 11 mm dovetail cut into the rear of the receiver. The cuts appear parallel, evenly cut and neat. I did not try mounting a scope so I can't say more.
Operating Behavior
The barrel cracks open smartly (with a karate chop) without much force, like the IHP 25.
The cocking action is really smooth. I mean really smooth - no gnashing, grinding galling feeling at all. Then the trigger sear engages with a nice click.
The safety is a bit gritty and I had to fiddle with it a bit to get used to it.
As stated earlier, the pellet can be easily inserted into the loading port - no need for the famous IHP fingernail push. The difference between loose and tight fitting pellets becomes apparent immediately.
The barrel locks up easily as well.
The whole thing comes up to the shoulder very nicely.
The sight picture is good, the front post skinny and hooded and the rear notch a bit less clean cut than I like.
Firing behavior
The trigger breaks cleanly with a surprise break. The trigger pull weight, as compared to the IHPs, is negligible - I'd guesstimate around twenty five/thirty ounces.
One of the three triggers I tried was a bit creepy, so I guess they can be adjusted. A diagram of the trigger assembly along with instructions on how to adjust it would be really nice . On average, I can live with it the way it is.
The trigger is the single most significant difference between the Precihole and the IHPs.
Felt recoil in the Precihole Club was non existent, for me - about the same as a smooth IHP 25. I am large built.
Power (don't believe a word I write here)
The Precihole Club put really clean holes with wadcutters into standard target sheets at 10 meters. That means I guesstimate it's at least 500 fps.
It put holes through both sides of a plastic motor oil bottle at 10 meters. That means I guesstimate it's cranking out around 600 fps.
600 fps from a roughly 7.9 grain flathead (Mastershot) is also what the manufacturer claims.
Accuracy (don't believe a word I write here)
I was snap shooting with virtually no form and follow through. The accuracy was comparable to what I usually get with the IHPs.
I tried three kinds of pellets - GSmith Competition/Mastershot Yellow Dabba/Krieberg (spelling?)
In my opinion the Mastershot Yellow Dabba wadcuters were the best.
I hope this satisfies some of the thirst for information we are all feeling
I have no connection with Precihole - although the Bangalore rep is a good friend of mine.
regards, Ashok
I own two IHP 35s in .177 for many years now and have been thrilled to bits with them. The only downside to IHP in general is the trigger. It's like pulling on a brick wall. Still, you get used to it and stoning the IHP trigger is not recommended.
I had the opportunity of trying out the Precihole Club a couple of weeks ago (three of them). I didn't write a review because I didn't have a camera/ Chrony/ other measuring tools and decide to hold off till such time as I could do a real review with real numbers and pictures.
Also, the Precihole owners club was annoying people with their "hole-in-hole" and "just you wait and see" childishness. I can entirely empathize with their enthusiasm, but felt that they were, in a sense, damaging the brand by not giving us the objective evaluation we were all looking for and I didn't want to add to the subjectivity.
So, on the understanding that this is merely a report of First Impressions on handling and shooting the Precihole Club and that you will not believe anything quantitative that I say; here goes -
The stock
The Precihole Club weighs in at something between the weight of an IHP 25 and an IHP 35 ( the exact weights should be on their respective websites).
It comes to the shoulder very easily. The stock is black and synthetic and feels decent.
There are pimples on all the grip areas . This is a good design feature as checkering/stippling on synthetics is often sharply cut and can hurt after a long session.
The stock screws are all recessed and angled into the stock body. The screws are all Allen ( so you will need an Allen key for doing anything to it). There are star washers between the screw heads and the stock body; a good thing.
As reported by others I too felt that the stock looked a bit tacky at first glance. The reason for this became clear immediately. To make the butt pad comfortable the designer has added a piece of softer polymer to the butt of the stock. This "butt pad" is glued on and some of the glue has streaked on the rest of the stock. A couple of draws of a thumbnail across the glue and the stock looked great.
The cheek-piece is high enough to get a good sight picture ( I have a long face and a fat head ) and should be good with a scope.
One feature I really liked is that the underside of the forestock - just afore the trigger guard - is flattened and splayed out a bit. Superb if you like shooting off your fist FT style. It feels very much like an FT badger attachment
The trigger
The trigger guard is generous, so much so that I didn't even notice it - I have long fingers.
The trigger blade is long and more vertical than it is curved - I personally like this design.
There is a trigger safety blade afore of the actual trigger. The safety was manual and you can choose to engage it/ or not.
I'll tell you how the trigger performs under Operating Behavior below.
The trigger is almost certainly a double/multiple sear one and seems adjustable. There was no instruction sheet so I didn't try adjusting it. All three triggers I operated were set at different points so I guess they should be adjustable.
The sights
The front sight blade is much narrower than on the IHPs and perfect for target shooting.
The sight blade is enclosed in a tunnel hood and the entire assembly sits in a muzzle brake format over the muzzle. There's probably a grub screw holding it down somewhere. The crown is fully protected.
The entire unit is made from a sturdy polymer and I don't foresee any damage related issues with it.
The rear sight is very well done. Both elevation and windage screws move easily with positive clicks (the windage screw on the IHPs can draw blood).
The notch on the rear sight is square and I felt it could have had sharper edges. The notch unit and the sight body seem to be polymer and the adjustment screws and internals metal. Again, I don't think sturdiness will be an issue.
The barrel
Externally, the barrel appears to have the same diameter as the IHP. It's sweated onto a rectangular block like the IHP.
The cocking link is an articulated two piece one - an improvement over the IHP, I think.
The block is obviously shimmed with washers on both sides (see operating behavior below) unlike the IHPs.
The barrel is held by chisel detents, like the IHP, although I feel the chisels are narrower - although adequate.
The loading port is really good. Unlike the IHP where you have to push the pellet into the land and grooves of the barrel with some force, here the pellet easily drops in.
The loading port is surrounded by a nitrile O Ring of standard Parker dimensions - easily available in Auto Supply shops for less than a Rupee.
The O Ring is perfectly centered around the loading port unlike a couple of Diana 34s I saw recently.
The barrel seems really well cut - the twists are clean and visible. To the naked eye it appears the twist rate may be higher than in the IHP. On the other hand it may not be. Don't believe a word I say that involves measurement and numbers.
The receiver
The receiver is all metal and finished a tad better than the new IHPs. On my old IHPs the finish is comparable. Not totally free from grinding marks but very decent.
The Precihloe logo is cut into the receiver and highlighted in white paint - a tad too bold and garish for my taste, but nothing a couple of strokes with a Sharpie pen can't fix.
There's a 11 mm dovetail cut into the rear of the receiver. The cuts appear parallel, evenly cut and neat. I did not try mounting a scope so I can't say more.
Operating Behavior
The barrel cracks open smartly (with a karate chop) without much force, like the IHP 25.
The cocking action is really smooth. I mean really smooth - no gnashing, grinding galling feeling at all. Then the trigger sear engages with a nice click.
The safety is a bit gritty and I had to fiddle with it a bit to get used to it.
As stated earlier, the pellet can be easily inserted into the loading port - no need for the famous IHP fingernail push. The difference between loose and tight fitting pellets becomes apparent immediately.
The barrel locks up easily as well.
The whole thing comes up to the shoulder very nicely.
The sight picture is good, the front post skinny and hooded and the rear notch a bit less clean cut than I like.
Firing behavior
The trigger breaks cleanly with a surprise break. The trigger pull weight, as compared to the IHPs, is negligible - I'd guesstimate around twenty five/thirty ounces.
One of the three triggers I tried was a bit creepy, so I guess they can be adjusted. A diagram of the trigger assembly along with instructions on how to adjust it would be really nice . On average, I can live with it the way it is.
The trigger is the single most significant difference between the Precihole and the IHPs.
Felt recoil in the Precihole Club was non existent, for me - about the same as a smooth IHP 25. I am large built.
Power (don't believe a word I write here)
The Precihole Club put really clean holes with wadcutters into standard target sheets at 10 meters. That means I guesstimate it's at least 500 fps.
It put holes through both sides of a plastic motor oil bottle at 10 meters. That means I guesstimate it's cranking out around 600 fps.
600 fps from a roughly 7.9 grain flathead (Mastershot) is also what the manufacturer claims.
Accuracy (don't believe a word I write here)
I was snap shooting with virtually no form and follow through. The accuracy was comparable to what I usually get with the IHPs.
I tried three kinds of pellets - GSmith Competition/Mastershot Yellow Dabba/Krieberg (spelling?)
In my opinion the Mastershot Yellow Dabba wadcuters were the best.
I hope this satisfies some of the thirst for information we are all feeling
I have no connection with Precihole - although the Bangalore rep is a good friend of mine.
regards, Ashok
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Re: Precihole Offerings
Hi Ashok Sir,
Thank you for welcoming me here.
You don't seem too lazy considering you cranked up a pretty good review for the Precihole Club
It sounds pretty good compared to a similar IHP (Personally, I feel it looks more classy, and seems to be made with a lot of thought behind it when adding features.)
This morning I had my heart set on the IHP National Model 35 in .177, and would have already paid for it if it was available at Aimco, or if Bandhuk Bandhar had sent me a confirmation, but now I'm going to wait for the Precihole and see how it fares in regular use.
Also, what's a good place in Bangalore to buy pellets in the future/the Precihole when it comes out? Should I stake my bets on Aimco being the cheapest option? (I was quoted Rs. 6500 for the IHP 35 .22 at Bangalore Armory, while Aimco has it for Rs. 6300 incl. shipping)
Thank you for welcoming me here.
You don't seem too lazy considering you cranked up a pretty good review for the Precihole Club
It sounds pretty good compared to a similar IHP (Personally, I feel it looks more classy, and seems to be made with a lot of thought behind it when adding features.)This morning I had my heart set on the IHP National Model 35 in .177, and would have already paid for it if it was available at Aimco, or if Bandhuk Bandhar had sent me a confirmation, but now I'm going to wait for the Precihole and see how it fares in regular use.
Also, what's a good place in Bangalore to buy pellets in the future/the Precihole when it comes out? Should I stake my bets on Aimco being the cheapest option? (I was quoted Rs. 6500 for the IHP 35 .22 at Bangalore Armory, while Aimco has it for Rs. 6300 incl. shipping)
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Re: Precihole Offerings
@lazybones: great review sir , but company's response to customer queries and absence of dealers list is big turn down. even few of our friends who already received gun are not informative to suggest availability. (club or Pegasuses) .22 already listed on Aimco.
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Re: Precihole Offerings
Ashok
Really a great review
I ask doc regarding adjusting the trigger pull but he suggested not to do anything your self
Really a great review
The cocking action is really smooth for club compares to Pegasus & trigger alsoThe trigger is the single most significant difference between the Precihole and the IHPs.
I ask doc regarding adjusting the trigger pull but he suggested not to do anything your self
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Re: Precihole Offerings
Not sure where you located. As far as I know some dealers in Kokatta, B'lore, Kerala, Mumbai etc. have already sold quite some pieces. Jignesh got it from Aimco. I got it as a sponsored gift from my Mom as my B'Day's round the corner. So do not wish to discuss the "gift" in detail. But I can tell you this - I got it from an MMR outlet.u_vaste wrote:Hi,airgun_novice wrote:Received my Pegasus today. Will break in after the Puja tomorrow. Will run in each a box of MS/ gsmith pellets just to see which one suits better. From Pratik's feedback, I suspect, heavier pellets ought to perform better in terms of accuracy in the Pegasus which I prefer to speed. Keeping my fingers crossed.
where do you got it from, I queried company about dealers or availability but I did not get any reply. I was looking for Pegasus.
BTW, I did try it out on a local match 40-shot thing - not sure how much I scored as I left immediately afterwards and returned home today.-
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How about lots and lots of pictures. No sanitized pics from website, but some which the real owners have clicked. Just curious
Best
Moin.
Best
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Still not able to fully use the power of photobucket. Getting the photos cut - so not posting. 
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SriramK
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Re: Precihole Offerings
If there was a Precihole Pegasus available in Bangalore right now, I'd say:
After contacting the guys at Precihole, I was told that we'll have to wait till first week of December... such a long wait to get my first rifle I hope the world doesn't end before I can get my hands on it 
After contacting the guys at Precihole, I was told that we'll have to wait till first week of December... such a long wait to get my first rifle
I hope the world doesn't end before I can get my hands on it -
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Moin - Good that you aren't a cat - a real one that is!Moin. wrote:How about lots and lots of pictures. No sanitized pics from website, but some which the real owners have clicked. Just curious
Best
Moin.
That you are a cat with sharpies is beyond dispute though. Hold on to the horses. Inside of pictures, you might just get to see, hold and shoot them - Orion and Pegasus - once the IFG meet is recast and/ or some MMR IFG folks decide to meet some "tere-mere *beach* mein" place
Till that time we can have Pratik model with the gun for us - what say Pratik ? Some Up Close and Personal video of the Pegasus when you have the time ? -
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Lollzz, curiosity never killed the cat, only made it more shana lollzzz. Being an IFG memeber's getting me ineterested in shooting sports and all things that go Bang Bang. Have shot and handled Tommy's and Nationals before but never quite took to shooting sports. Got curious after EsdeeDa had great things to say about the PreciHole and was looking forward to the Pune meet, hoping someone would teach me to hold and fire.airgun_novice wrote:Moin - Good that you aren't a cat - a real one that is!Moin. wrote:How about lots and lots of pictures. No sanitized pics from website, but some which the real owners have clicked. Just curious
Best
Moin.
Hold on to the horses. Inside of pictures, you might just get to see, hold and shoot them - Orion and Pegasus - once the IFG meet is recast and/ or some MMR IFG folks decide to meet some "tere-mere *beach* mein" place
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essdeeDA, you have a STUDENT OF THE YEAR.Moin. wrote:Lollzz, curiosity never killed the cat, only made it more shana lollzzz. Being an IFG memeber's getting me ineterested in shooting sports and all things that go Bang Bang. Have shot and handled Tommy's and Nationals before but never quite took to shooting sports. Got curious after EsdeeDa had great things to say about the PreciHole and was looking forward to the Pune meet, hoping someone would teach me to hold and fire.airgun_novice wrote:Moin - Good that you aren't a cat - a real one that is!Moin. wrote:How about lots and lots of pictures. No sanitized pics from website, but some which the real owners have clicked. Just curious
Best
Moin.
Hold on to the horses. Inside of pictures, you might just get to see, hold and shoot them - Orion and Pegasus - once the IFG meet is recast and/ or some MMR IFG folks decide to meet some "tere-mere *beach* mein" place
Best
Moin.
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airgun_novice wrote:Not sure where you located. As far as I know some dealers in Kokatta, B'lore, Kerala, Mumbai etc. have already sold quite some pieces. Jignesh got it from Aimco. I got it as a sponsored gift from my Mom as my B'Day's round the corner. So do not wish to discuss the "gift" in detail. But I can tell you this - I got it from an MMR outlet.u_vaste wrote:Hi,airgun_novice wrote:Received my Pegasus today. Will break in after the Puja tomorrow. Will run in each a box of MS/ gsmith pellets just to see which one suits better. From Pratik's feedback, I suspect, heavier pellets ought to perform better in terms of accuracy in the Pegasus which I prefer to speed. Keeping my fingers crossed.
where do you got it from, I queried company about dealers or availability but I did not get any reply. I was looking for Pegasus.
@ airgun_novice: I am located at Mumbai, I did inquire with company website but no response, though i did not check with local arm dealers. Aimco does not keep .177 cal (PEGASUS or CLUB) , where is this MMR outlet ?
wish you very very happy b,day in advance and enjoy your gift.
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Re: Precihole Offerings
finally I got reply from precihole its late but it will will do.
Pegasus and Club will be available only by 1st week of December,
2012.
List: Hasanand Hemandas & Co.- 022-23443096/ 23437544
M. Saleh & Co. - 022-23427176 /66335996
Bansons - 022-23440592 / 3017
Bombay Arms - 9820278157
Magnum Arms - 9821145075
Tas & Company - 022-23426808/ 66315038
Bombay Gun House - 9869755373
Meher Armoury (Palghar) - 02525 251132
Pegasus and Club will be available only by 1st week of December,
2012.
List: Hasanand Hemandas & Co.- 022-23443096/ 23437544
M. Saleh & Co. - 022-23427176 /66335996
Bansons - 022-23440592 / 3017
Bombay Arms - 9820278157
Magnum Arms - 9821145075
Tas & Company - 022-23426808/ 66315038
Bombay Gun House - 9869755373
Meher Armoury (Palghar) - 02525 251132
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Re: Precihole Offerings
I contacted Mr. Shankar, Precihole distributor in Bangalore ([email protected])
Edit: I have my clock set to a different time zone Hence Oct 30 is two days ago.
I hope to grab mine thenSales SportPrecision
Oct 30 (2 days ago)
to me
The stocks are expected in Nov. end. I shall inform you as soon as it arrives.
At this point of time we do not carry any pellets or acessories. However will suggest to you where to procure them.
Regards. Shankar
Edit: I have my clock set to a different time zone
Hence Oct 30 is two days ago.