Which is the best indian made long range air rifle

[kitty]

Hi, please read this thread. (http://indiansforguns.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=7658)It may help you. I prefer IHP .22 or IHP .117

Krishna

[sudarsan7532]

i think you should go with IHP

[Sakobav]

i think you should go with IHP

[spslfa]

dear basu,
you are mistaken. .177 makes more lethal hit than .22. its difficult to believe, but its true. .22 pellets may better negotiate with the wind as it is heavier, but does not gives that accuracy and range as like .177. also , take it from me, flat head pellets makes more lethal hit than round or pointed ones.

have a good shoot
suresh

[Vikram]

dear basu,
you are mistaken. .177 makes more lethal hit than .22. its difficult to believe, but its true. .22 pellets may better negotiate with the wind as it is heavier, but does not gives that accuracy and range as like .177. also , take it from me, flat head pellets makes more lethal hit than round or pointed ones.

have a good shoot
suresh

The debate about .177 Vs .22 is never ending.I don't think any one is wrong.It's also not the calibre here,the shooter too.

Best-
Vikram

[nash]

I have also ordered IHP .22 from Aimco.... i was also split between .177 and .22..... actually i still am confused.... did i make the right choice by going for the .22......... i think we should buy both to relieve our mind from the anxiety of "which is a better choice" feeling....

My .22 is on its way from calcutta to chennai... i'm already contemplating buying a .177 cal Cannon LG 65...

WHAT SAY GUYS/?????

[brihacharan]

dear basu,
you are mistaken. .177 makes more lethal hit than .22. its difficult to believe, but its true. .22 pellets may better negotiate with the wind as it is heavier, but does not gives that accuracy and range as like .177. also , take it from me, flat head pellets makes more lethal hit than round or pointed ones.
have a good shoot
suresh

The debate about .177 Vs .22 is never ending.I don't think any one is wrong.It's also not the calibre here,the shooter too.
Best-
Vikram

Hi Guys,
Here's my take on the subject -
1. Don't ever compare Indian made air rifles / guns to those made abroad.
2. Over there the the rifles / guns are designed by engineers (metallurgists, machinists, ballistic experts etc) - whereas here they are copied & assembled by mechanics.
3. There's more to manufacturing a rifle / gun than just assembling tubes, pistons, seals, springs and what have you.
4. Tools, dies, fixtures etc are periodically calibrated and updated. Here the same are used till kingdom come, thus affecting accuracy and longevity of the rifle / gun.
5. There's something called aesthetics & ergonomy which our people do not know or do not care. Demand outgrows supply hence flog what you make & it gets sold.
6. Aesthetics is all about the look and feel of the rifle /gun. The shape of the stock, the quality of wood or plastic that's used, the checkering, relative dimensions between heel & comb, length of pull, ratio between butt-end & fore-end, circumfrance of the pistol grip etc.
7. Ergonomy is all about ease of handling, balance etc. Eg. when the rifle / gun is shouldered it must fit the shooter like the proverbial glove. The height & width of the cheek piece, the drop of the comb, the girth of the fore-end are all of prime importance.
8. Are all of the above ever considered while designing a rifle / gun here? I DOUBT!
9. In a land of the blind a 'one eyed jack' is king - so here we pick the best amongst the bad!!!
10. Now coming to the all time favourite punching bag - 0.177 or 0.22 - which is better- is a question that a novice or a newbie invariably asks.... we 'll give them the benefit of doubt arising out of ignorance - not their fault though.
> Let's define the end use first... Do you want to target shoot, plink or hunt?
> If one wants to target shoot or just plink then go for 0.177 - it has velocity, accuracy & fair trajectory. apprx. upto 40ft max. But not much knock down power, unless ofcource one uses magnum rifles / guns like Gammo extreme, Weirauch or HW90, Diana 350 mag. etc., but shot placement is very important.
> Whereas 0.22 because of the weight of the pellet / size carries it's energy much farther than 0.177
> Eg. if a 0.177 generates 12fpe at the muzzle, it winds up delivering only 3fpe at 40ft - While the 0.22 generating 12fpe at the muzzle will deliver 5 to 6fpe at 40ft. this energy is almost twice that of a 0.177 - hence ideal for hunting small game like rabbits / large squirrels or even a jungle fowl. the damage it does to the muscle tissues if far greater than a 0.177
> One could go on and a write a whole thesis on this subject - for those who want some further GYAN on pellet choice & efficacy - please read my post on this subject given earlier, it's quite exhaustive.
> Finally - Each to his Own - 0.177 or 0.22 - my advice is get one of each - like the old 'ad' of Esso "Fill Up & Feel the Difference"! Meaning "Shoot & Feel the Differece - Like the French say "Viva la Difference"!!!
> For now it's Ciao, Adios, Au revoir, Namaste, Sat Sri Akaal, Shalom, Khuda hafiz.... till we spar again!
Cheers
Brihacharan

[fantumfan2003]

Brihacharan



M.

Hi Guys,
Here's my take on the subject -
1. Don't ever compare Indian made air rifles / guns to those made abroad.
2. Over there the the rifles / guns are designed by engineers (metallurgists, machinists, ballistic experts etc) - whereas here they are copied & assembled by mechanics.
3. There's more to manufacturing a rifle / gun than just assembling tubes, pistons, seals, springs and what have you.
4. Tools, dies, fixtures etc are periodically calibrated and updated. Here the same are used till kingdom come, thus affecting accuracy and longevity of the rifle / gun.
5. There's something called aesthetics & ergonomy which our people do not know or do not care. Demand outgrows supply hence flog what you make & it gets sold.
6. Aesthetics is all about the look and feel of the rifle /gun. The shape of the stock, the quality of wood or plastic that's used, the checkering, relative dimensions between heel & comb, length of pull, ratio between butt-end & fore-end, circumfrance of the pistol grip etc.
7. Ergonomy is all about ease of handling, balance etc. Eg. when the rifle / gun is shouldered it must fit the shooter like the proverbial glove. The height & width of the cheek piece, the drop of the comb, the girth of the fore-end are all of prime importance.
8. Are all of the above ever considered while designing a rifle / gun here? I DOUBT!
9. In a land of the blind a 'one eyed jack' is king - so here we pick the best amongst the bad!!!
10. Now coming to the all time favourite punching bag - 0.177 or 0.22 - which is better- is a question that a novice or a newbie invariably asks.... we 'll give them the benefit of doubt arising out of ignorance - not their fault though.
> Let's define the end use first... Do you want to target shoot, plink or hunt?
> If one wants to target shoot or just plink then go for 0.177 - it has velocity, accuracy & fair trajectory. apprx. upto 40ft max. But not much knock down power, unless ofcource one uses magnum rifles / guns like Gammo extreme, Weirauch or HW90, Diana 350 mag. etc., but shot placement is very important.
> Whereas 0.22 because of the weight of the pellet / size carries it's energy much farther than 0.177
> Eg. if a 0.177 generates 12fpe at the muzzle, it winds up delivering only 3fpe at 40ft - While the 0.22 generating 12fpe at the muzzle will deliver 5 to 6fpe at 40ft. this energy is almost twice that of a 0.177 - hence ideal for hunting small game like rabbits / large squirrels or even a jungle fowl. the damage it does to the muscle tissues if far greater than a 0.177
> One could go on and a write a whole thesis on this subject - for those who want some further GYAN on pellet choice & efficacy - please read my post on this subject given earlier, it's quite exhaustive.
> Finally - Each to his Own - 0.177 or 0.22 - my advice is get one of each - like the old 'ad' of Esso "Fill Up & Feel the Difference"! Meaning "Shoot & Feel the Differece - Like the French say "Viva la Difference"!!!
> For now it's Ciao, Adios, Au revoir, Namaste, Sat Sri Akaal, Shalom, Khuda hafiz.... till we spar again!
Cheers
Brihacharan

[architectharsha]

[m24]

Great post, Briha Sir.

Regards