John knibbs + IHP

karizman · Post by **karizman** » Fri Aug 29, 2008 9:59 pm

ai";p="51125 wrote:Karizman, there is a word in Punjabi called 'Jugaad'! Translates roughly to english as- 'coalition government'. It doesn't need any science!

Juggad dose not need John Knibbs even yamaha shock absorber spring also fits in there. I advised a fellow since he was using a refined product developed scientifically by true airgunner. I forgot a good saying that "free advice is never valued" before posting my comment.

R-Dhillon · Post by **R-Dhillon** » Fri Aug 29, 2008 10:03 pm

Jus curious, how much muzzle energy will a yamaha shock absorber give me??

karizman · Post by **karizman** » Fri Aug 29, 2008 10:10 pm

dev";p="51137 wrote:I would love to see two pieces of springs from totally different materials & design working together to make a smooth shooting air rifle with magnum power. That's just great invention must try. Have some respect to simple science & then make suggestions.

I think you don't know what you are talking about or just can't read. What Sapta is talking about is shortening a spring to fit a particular rifle. Read carefully before airing your impudence.

Dev[/quote]

Dear I always measure thrice & cut once. I have read the thread very carefully & then only a made a suggestion. He has fitted a spring & found it's power better than before but he is not happy with pre-compression of the spring. He wants to increase the that is why Rustom & I suggested him to have stacking of washer. Sapta is asking him to put a small piece of spring to do the same thing.

It is clear now that who needs to be careful. Be sporting enough to accept your mistakes also. It can improve your knowledge only. I learned a lot from my mistakes only. Don't take it personally & pleas mellow down your tone.

Post by **dev** » Fri Aug 29, 2008 10:17 pm

It is clear now that who needs to be careful. Be sporting enough to accept your mistakes also. It can improve your knowledge only. I learned a lot from my mistakes only. Don't take it personally & pleas mellow down your tone.
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I don't think my tone was as spicy as it should have been. I don't think you have any know how of a person's knowledge level.So don't make suggestions about who needs to learn what.
It is better that you read the forum for a while before cutting once.

Dev

karizman · Post by **karizman** » Fri Aug 29, 2008 10:29 pm

R-Dhillon";p="51143 wrote:Jus curious, how much muzzle energy will a yamaha shock absorber give me??

Dear just as I said earlier every spring is designed as per required application. As you can see that shock abs are having repetative comression & de-compression action but much of the shock is absorbed by oil through getting squizzed through small hole. Whereas airgun spring has to sustain almost all the shock on it's own. The resultant twang / force could be great enough to break faulty spring or piston / guide. At the same time it can also loose it's shape memory & eventually have less power ( Unsprung strength ).

That is why all the springs are made with careful selection of material, length, distance between each turn of spring & no. of turns as well. Everything has domino kind of effect on final outcome. Little bit here & there is always anticipated but something like packing with small piece of spring from different make or using shock abs springs in airgun are never advised by a sane person with least regard for saftey & common sence.

You are most welcome if you need any more detailed help to improve your airgun performance.

karizman · Post by **karizman** » Fri Aug 29, 2008 10:32 pm

dev";p="51146 wrote:It is clear now that who needs to be careful. Be sporting enough to accept your mistakes also. It can improve your knowledge only. I learned a lot from my mistakes only. Don't take it personally & pleas mellow down your tone.

I don't think my tone was as spicy as it should have been. I don't think you have any know how of a person's knowledge level.So don't make suggestions about who needs to learn what.
It is better that you read the forum for a while before cutting once.

Dev[/quote]

You either don't know the knowledge level I have.

R-Dhillon · Post by **R-Dhillon** » Fri Aug 29, 2008 11:29 pm

Lol...havent seen grownups quarrel that much over just a spring...anyways thanks Mr.Kaziman n Mr.Dev...think I'll go with the washer idea and post any changes...
Peace,
R.Dhillon...

TenX · Post by **TenX** » Fri Aug 29, 2008 11:47 pm

Good decision Dhillon... and dont try Yamaha springs

ai · Post by ai » Sat Aug 30, 2008 1:06 am

Well, its a weekend night, spirits are high, tensions as high as a compressed yamaha spring. Dev, the post you reacted to was actually about increasing spring length, not cutting it down! No offence intended by pointing it out, but it seems some members are enjoying other members squabble.

b.baracho · Post by **b.baracho** » Sat Aug 30, 2008 12:33 pm

hum.......

Spring of a yamaha...whats next tubes of a Kawasaki....

snIPer · Post by **snIPer** » Sat Aug 30, 2008 11:43 pm

Dhillon, if you are on an experimentation spree then try the luna spring. you will NOT be disappointed.

R-Dhillon · Post by **R-Dhillon** » Sun Aug 31, 2008 12:39 pm

Where do I get a luna spring?...I dont think that its gonna be more powerful than a john knibbs...but I guess it can be compared to G-smith...

karizman · Post by **karizman** » Sun Aug 31, 2008 4:50 pm

R-Dhillon";p="51312 wrote:Where do I get a luna spring?...I dont think that its gonna be more powerful than a john knibbs...but I guess it can be compared to G-smith...

This thread is really becoming funny. Luna is a 50cc moped Sir.

R-Dhillon · Post by **R-Dhillon** » Sun Aug 31, 2008 5:42 pm

What?? U mean the bloody moped...where is this spring located n I guess I'll get it through a mechanic but dont know 'bout the power...

snIPer · Post by **snIPer** » Sun Aug 31, 2008 8:28 pm

hahah

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