Media on Ban of Airguns

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Re: Media on Ban of Airguns

Post by fantumfan2003 » Fri Aug 06, 2010 4:05 pm

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Its bad parenting , got nothing to do with airguns

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Re: Media on Ban of Airguns

Post by tonysilas » Sat Aug 07, 2010 9:56 am

dc has published tthe comments...cmon lets make it large!!! comment on the issue here

http://www.deccanchronicle.com/tabloids ... banned-686
‘The world is filled with violence. Because criminals carry guns, we decent law-abiding citizens should also have guns. Otherwise they will win and the decent people will lose.’’

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Re: Media on Ban of Airguns

Post by thomast1 » Sat Aug 07, 2010 11:57 am

US culture of self protection,,, and our what??? getting shot by anti social elements?

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Re: Media on Ban of Airguns

Post by fantumfan2003 » Sat Aug 07, 2010 12:37 pm

My comment is still not to be seen on the site. Freedom of expression, my rear.
We ought to write to the journo who wrote the article. Its a typical article to defame a community.

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thomast1 wrote:US culture of self protection,,, and our what??? getting shot by anti social elements?

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Re: Media on Ban of Airguns

Post by karthik » Sat Aug 07, 2010 12:55 pm

thomast1 wrote:gave a comment on that, but i dont think DC has any plans of showing it.... may be a sad state of affair by any news paper. Right to express seems to have gone to Dogs!!!
Its time that we have a paid ad in a news paper explaining the same, I am sure IFG and RKBA can come together for this venture. We can all dutch in for what can be an educational article on gun ownership in the current mass media of India including print media. a half page article in national dailies.
I am sure we will have people taking a second thought on things, rather than having them read through thought free...

Reason for saying this:
I mentioned this link to my colleagues at office, mostly IT or ITES professional, who literally supported the artice. I spoke to them about the side aspects of the article, how the author seems to have twisted the facts,
1) he calls a toy of 100 - 250 INR an Airgun.
2) how he has failed to identify the real issue. (IMHO gun with an under 12 year old and lack of training)
3) how watching movies havent made themselves (my colleagues) any violent.
4) many students lost eye sight imitating the war scene in Mahabharat and Ramayana, immediately following the episodes in sundays!
5) connecting irrelelvant and vague information to weave together a thread and call it a high- risk!

At this point most agreed and mentioned that the points were not thougt by them, and that the report did not look like one which provoked thought but one which created a bias!

Do i need to say more... we need to make the people think. I honestly feel that i do my share in this, atleast with my acquaintances, i have had 4 people apply for Rifle Association membership with me. I did not coax them, just a few links here and there, they could easily associate this as a sport that needed good training, passion and effort, not to forget the concentration this needs.

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Hi thomast1,

I don't know whether u have seen these serials cause the "WAR SCENES" are not at all gory or violence as in any movie or shows u can see now a days in every channel.

So there is no need to pin point that kids are getting hurt just by seeing Hindu epics "MAHABHARAT and RAMAYANA". I would request u to remove that particular post as it is a wrong one.

As for others (pt.1,2,3 and 5) and u are right

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Re: Media on Ban of Airguns

Post by ckkalyan » Sat Aug 07, 2010 2:23 pm

I have posted a reply - lets see if it comes through. Fingers crossed!
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Re: Media on Ban of Airguns

Post by Big Daddy » Sat Aug 07, 2010 4:05 pm

No way! Your comments are not going to be published in the media. I have posted several comments over the years and only comments that make articles look good have always found their way. Unfortunately the media in India largely report news as they want it to be understood and not as to how or what it is. Yester night I was watching news on a reputed Indian news channel about a about a van parked outside RBI with 92 crores, that could not be deposited because the van came late. The news caster mentioned over and over that the RBI staffers should have opened the bank and accepted the money as it was a large sum. That is not news reporting. The van was not let in because it was late, and what could be the options now, would have been the right news. She, by talking about the bank staffers is influencing ones decision making.
Hence guys, please do not expect your comments to be posted if they do not necesseraly agree with the author of the article.
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Re: Media on Ban of Airguns

Post by thomast1 » Sun Aug 08, 2010 3:41 pm

karthik wrote:
thomast1 wrote: 4) many students lost eye sight imitating the war scene in Mahabharat and Ramayana, immediately following the

Thomas
Hi thomast1,

I don't know whether u have seen these serials cause the "WAR SCENES" are not at all gory or violence as in any movie or shows u can see now a days in every channel.

So there is no need to pin point that kids are getting hurt just by seeing Hindu epics "MAHABHARAT and RAMAYANA". I would request u to remove that particular post as it is a wrong one.

As for others (pt.1,2,3 and 5) and u are right

Karthik
Karthik, no offences meant on the epic serials, i was a regular follower of the series but very young. My first reverence to the archers came from them. I have never said them to be gory or violent, and the learning it gave was more than the war scenes too. And the instance said following an epic series was true, the kids made a bow and arrow from the stem of palm leaf. I read the story myself in the daily, and it repeated some years later with the Shaktiman series, this time it was a jump from a high rise in the heroes costumes. just meant to say sometimes imitations can be dangerous for kids, but all dont do it, or some get away with doing it..
I respect the Indian Epic and culture.

Thomas
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-- Sun Aug 08, 2010 15:44 --

and back to the topic,
A criticism on the reporter and the editor was cutoff / diced! and an edited comment was published by DC after about 48 hours of submitting it. what say guys about the paid ad in daily and mass media?
Thomas

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Re: Media on Ban of Airguns

Post by ckkalyan » Tue Aug 10, 2010 10:02 pm

@ Big Daddy Hooray - my post got through - with some damage; they killed my most scathing sentences! I had said "Iron Pellets (sic)"

Here it is
Submitted by C. K. Kalyanramkumar on Sat, 07/08/2010 - 1:23pm.
Journalists out there, I urge you to report accountably and responsibly. If the subject is unfamiliar, ask, observe and learn before you publish an opinion. I have been a student of a military school and have safely handled fire arms from a very young age, with no visible negative side effects. The title suggesting a ban on air guns is so presumptuous and for lack of a better word, Stupid; I wouldn't deign to say anything further on this 'patellar reflex' generated article.

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Re: Media on Ban of Airguns

Post by snIPer » Wed Aug 11, 2010 4:56 pm

Ah Mine are right up there :D
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You bet :-), the bigger they are the harder they hit :-)
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Re: Media on Ban of Airguns

Post by karthik » Wed Aug 11, 2010 8:39 pm

thomast1 wrote:
karthik wrote:
thomast1 wrote: 4) many students lost eye sight imitating the war scene in Mahabharat and Ramayana, immediately following the

Thomas
Hi thomast1,

I don't know whether u have seen these serials cause the "WAR SCENES" are not at all gory or violence as in any movie or shows u can see now a days in every channel.

So there is no need to pin point that kids are getting hurt just by seeing Hindu epics "MAHABHARAT and RAMAYANA". I would request u to remove that particular post as it is a wrong one.

As for others (pt.1,2,3 and 5) and u are right

Karthik
Karthik, no offences meant on the epic serials, i was a regular follower of the series but very young. My first reverence to the archers came from them. I have never said them to be gory or violent, and the learning it gave was more than the war scenes too. And the instance said following an epic series was true, the kids made a bow and arrow from the stem of palm leaf. I read the story myself in the daily, and it repeated some years later with the Shaktiman series, this time it was a jump from a high rise in the heroes costumes. just meant to say sometimes imitations can be dangerous for kids, but all dont do it, or some get away with doing it..
I respect the Indian Epic and culture.

Thomas
Thomas

-- Sun Aug 08, 2010 15:44 --

and back to the topic,
A criticism on the reporter and the editor was cutoff / diced! and an edited comment was published by DC after about 48 hours of submitting it. what say guys about the paid ad in daily and mass media?
Thomas
Thomas

None taken.

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Re: Media on Ban of Airguns

Post by thomast1 » Thu Aug 12, 2010 11:09 am

some wise man said "You can't wake a person who is pretending to be asleep." :D

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