Horrid thing to have happened. Was there any trace of threadlock on the screws?
Mack The Knife
Weihrauch HW 45
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Re: my new prize possession HW 45
Mack The Knife,
Yes. Sticky, brownish and nasty. I find it difficult to remove. It may be some thread-locking substance. The screws sometimes come off easily and sometimes one gets stuck, like now.
The HW 45's barrel doesn't really need that much securing. The barrel(s) have a deep detent that coupled with its fixing slate stay put without fuss. Those hex screws don't need to be so tight. It's overkill!!!
I've been shooting all afternoon with one of these hex bolts on. I removed the other and kept the "stuck" one, until i get a Dremel tomorrow. It shoots fine with one bolt.
Because of the pistol's design, the slate that holds the barrel, upon closing the top part after cockind-and-loading, rests firmly on top of the compression chamber thus holding everything in place firmly.
If I had designed it I would have done away with hex screws and would have used securing clips, like the ones used to secure the motordrive on my Nikon F4E. Easy on -- easy off.
Ahhh, if only the Japs were designing the HW 45, bbl swapping would have been easier...
N._
Yes. Sticky, brownish and nasty. I find it difficult to remove. It may be some thread-locking substance. The screws sometimes come off easily and sometimes one gets stuck, like now.
The HW 45's barrel doesn't really need that much securing. The barrel(s) have a deep detent that coupled with its fixing slate stay put without fuss. Those hex screws don't need to be so tight. It's overkill!!!
I've been shooting all afternoon with one of these hex bolts on. I removed the other and kept the "stuck" one, until i get a Dremel tomorrow. It shoots fine with one bolt.
Because of the pistol's design, the slate that holds the barrel, upon closing the top part after cockind-and-loading, rests firmly on top of the compression chamber thus holding everything in place firmly.
If I had designed it I would have done away with hex screws and would have used securing clips, like the ones used to secure the motordrive on my Nikon F4E. Easy on -- easy off.
Ahhh, if only the Japs were designing the HW 45, bbl swapping would have been easier...
N._
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All's Well That Ends Well!
Mack The Knife,
Thanks for the tip.
Yes, of course. I have a cook's (kitchen) torch for making creme brulee and peeling tomatos and aubergines, which I use around the house for odd jobs.
My new DREMEL Stylus (the one w/the ergonomic handle) was used this morning to cut a fine horizontal groove into the SOFT (if I knew how soft it is I could have done it w/a toothpick, turned around my finger-and-thumb
), hex screw hed (the one I bugled/stripped).
The torch was applied for a little bit.
Then with an appropriate flat head screwdriver I tried to undo it.
Nope! It didn't move.
I put the cutter drill deeper.
Some more torching.
Screwdriver.
Nope.
Still there...
Desperate to remove the hex screw, I took out the conical cutter and cut off the screw's head in half!
More torching and screwdriver AND...the rest is History.
That last bit did it.
I was then able to remove the, now looking like a rare iron butterfly, ****** screw.
I smoothed out everything and after gave a good degreasing to the iron butterfly, I swapped the .177 with the .22 cal. spare.
Uppon reassembly I used only the iron butterfly screw, not the first intact one I had removed yesterday. The pistol shoots great with that bugled up IB screw, as I have saved the other one as a reference in my quest for spare ones.
Accuracy in .22 cal. is up there with the best. Best pellets, in order of weight, not performance as they are equally accurate out to 20-25 meters (the .22 HW 45's max range):
1. Dynamic Sn2 13.0 grains
2. Benjamin Sheridan 14.3 grains
3. LOGUN Penetrator 16.0 grains
I must also stress the fact that when you buy the dual-power .177 version of the HW45, these two power levels are retained when you swap bbls.
When you buy the .20 or .22 HW 45 version you only get one power setting. One click upon cocking, not two.
Now, let me tell you: shooting the .22 cal. bbl at the LOW setting is a BLAST! You can see the pellet proding along on its way to the target...it is a savoury experience
Best,
N._
Thanks for the tip.
Yes, of course. I have a cook's (kitchen) torch for making creme brulee and peeling tomatos and aubergines, which I use around the house for odd jobs.
My new DREMEL Stylus (the one w/the ergonomic handle) was used this morning to cut a fine horizontal groove into the SOFT (if I knew how soft it is I could have done it w/a toothpick, turned around my finger-and-thumb
), hex screw hed (the one I bugled/stripped).The torch was applied for a little bit.
Then with an appropriate flat head screwdriver I tried to undo it.
Nope! It didn't move.
I put the cutter drill deeper.
Some more torching.
Screwdriver.
Nope.
Still there...
Desperate to remove the hex screw, I took out the conical cutter and cut off the screw's head in half!
More torching and screwdriver AND...the rest is History.
That last bit did it.
I was then able to remove the, now looking like a rare iron butterfly, ****** screw.
I smoothed out everything and after gave a good degreasing to the iron butterfly, I swapped the .177 with the .22 cal. spare.
Uppon reassembly I used only the iron butterfly screw, not the first intact one I had removed yesterday. The pistol shoots great with that bugled up IB screw, as I have saved the other one as a reference in my quest for spare ones.
Accuracy in .22 cal. is up there with the best. Best pellets, in order of weight, not performance as they are equally accurate out to 20-25 meters (the .22 HW 45's max range):
1. Dynamic Sn2 13.0 grains
2. Benjamin Sheridan 14.3 grains
3. LOGUN Penetrator 16.0 grains
I must also stress the fact that when you buy the dual-power .177 version of the HW45, these two power levels are retained when you swap bbls.
When you buy the .20 or .22 HW 45 version you only get one power setting. One click upon cocking, not two.
Now, let me tell you: shooting the .22 cal. bbl at the LOW setting is a BLAST! You can see the pellet proding along on its way to the target...it is a savoury experience
Best,
N._
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Diff between HW45 and the P1
guys,
the specs of the HW45 and the P1 look similar ..... but the p1 cost almost a 100 dollars more ....so other than the company is there anything diff ....
regards
the specs of the HW45 and the P1 look similar ..... but the p1 cost almost a 100 dollars more ....so other than the company is there anything diff ....
regards
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Re: Diff between HW45 and the P1
the hw 45 is made in germany,and the p1 is the same pistol imported by beeman in the usa from weihrauch ,and so the additional cost,but thats for americans,
u may buy the hw45 and enjoy the original price .
cheers sanjiv
u may buy the hw45 and enjoy the original price .
cheers sanjiv