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Another Sad Example of a Decaying Legacy
Posted: Mon May 27, 2024 11:39 am
by Mr.Shome
Greetings Everyone!
Felt like sharing this article (disappointing is an understatement).
https://news24online.com/trending/centu ... te/272765/
Re: Another Sad Example of a Decaying Legacy
Posted: Mon May 27, 2024 6:43 pm
by rahulbdelhi
This indeed is sad. However guns as old as these should be categorized as 'antiques' under arms laws2016. As per my understanding, these can be purchased by individuals without requiring an arms license.
Re: Another Sad Example of a Decaying Legacy
Posted: Tue May 28, 2024 2:04 am
by timmy
Mr. Shome, this is a bad sign. When people forget who they are and what has shaped them, improvement and wisdom isn't likely to follow.
I have guns that have a lot of history to them -- as we say, if they could only speak, what stories they would tell!
Besides shooting and all of that, they represent many lives that have gone before that have lessons to tell.
Just think: one of those guns may have been held by someone who stood next to or near the Rani of Jhansi! We don't know if that is true, or if it is, which gun it would have been, but the important part is to remember the Rani of Jhansi and what she did, and who she was, and how it has affected our lives up to today. There is a whole lot of thinking that can be associated with this that some people with non-constructive attitudes miss.
They say they are against guns and violence in all forms, but to forget the sacrifices others have made that benefit us, or to discard the inspiriing stories that caused others to rise above themselves and do great things -- considering these things is valuable.
We also know that many stories of those deeds of the past will never be known, but they do live on in our minds -- not by knowing them, but by knowing that they certainly occurred. What kind of people should we be, in light of this?
But, one may argue, not very many people will think like this about a gun. True, but how many need to think like this? it only takes one, or a few, to make the difference between something good happening and affecting generations, or not.
Belittling this respect of heritage for some cheap political or ideological position is the real crime here. Trying to ignore the fact that something has happened and that a gun can give a connection to that, rather than some foolish or evil act of violence, is not constructive.
Yes, the gun could have been involved in some evil as well. It is not alive, nor has it ever been. But we can consider what it may have seen, knowing about history, and we can challenge ourselves to emulate the good and caution ourselves to eschew the bad, and profit thereby.
Those who cannot do this -- I pity them, and lament for the loss to the rest of us.
Re: Another Sad Example of a Decaying Legacy
Posted: Wed May 29, 2024 2:20 am
by Vikram
Well put, Tim.
Re: Another Sad Example of a Decaying Legacy
Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2024 8:17 pm
by herb
Unfortunate indeed, the same can be said about vintage cars, motor cycles, watches, clocks etc. although owning, restoring and enjoying these vintage items can be much easier than firearms as no politics is involved.
Tim's post nicely describes the situation.
Re: Another Sad Example of a Decaying Legacy
Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2024 11:46 pm
by Mr.Shome
rahulbdelhi wrote: ↑Mon May 27, 2024 6:43 pm
This indeed is sad. However guns as old as these should be categorized as 'antiques' under arms laws2016. As per my understanding, these can be purchased by individuals without requiring an arms license.
Perhaps they don't require a license as such, but I am not very sure whether obtaining functional Antique guns is as simple as simply walking into a store and buying one.
Re: Another Sad Example of a Decaying Legacy
Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2024 12:01 am
by Mr.Shome
timmy wrote: ↑Tue May 28, 2024 2:04 am
Mr. Shome, this is a bad sign. When people forget who they are and what has shaped them, improvement and wisdom isn't likely to follow.
I have guns that have a lot of history to them -- as we say, if they could only speak, what stories they would tell!
Besides shooting and all of that, they represent many lives that have gone before that have lessons to tell.
Just think: one of those guns may have been held by someone who stood next to or near the Rani of Jhansi! We don't know if that is true, or if it is, which gun it would have been, but the important part is to remember the Rani of Jhansi and what she did, and who she was, and how it has affected our lives up to today. There is a whole lot of thinking that can be associated with this that some people with non-constructive attitudes miss.
They say they are against guns and violence in all forms, but to forget the sacrifices others have made that benefit us, or to discard the inspiriing stories that caused others to rise above themselves and do great things -- considering these things is valuable.
We also know that many stories of those deeds of the past will never be known, but they do live on in our minds -- not by knowing them, but by knowing that they certainly occurred. What kind of people should we be, in light of this?
But, one may argue, not very many people will think like this about a gun. True, but how many need to think like this? it only takes one, or a few, to make the difference between something good happening and affecting generations, or not.
Belittling this respect of heritage for some cheap political or ideological position is the real crime here. Trying to ignore the fact that something has happened and that a gun can give a connection to that, rather than some foolish or evil act of violence, is not constructive.
Yes, the gun could have been involved in some evil as well. It is not alive, nor has it ever been. But we can consider what it may have seen, knowing about history, and we can challenge ourselves to emulate the good and caution ourselves to eschew the bad, and profit thereby.
Those who cannot do this -- I pity them, and lament for the loss to the rest of us.
Thank you, Timmy Sir, for elaborating these sentiments so lucidly. Unfortunately, with time, these gems and the quest to learn about them have almost faded into oblivion.
Your last sentence is especially hard hitting 'Those who cannot do this -- I pity them, and lament for the loss to the rest of us'.
Warm regards.