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movie on gun culture

Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 6:45 pm
by brijendra
mates today at 9.00 pm on utv world movies a documentary is being shown titled "BOWLING OUT COLOMBINE " .. its on the gun culture in u.s.a featuring pros and cons of gun ownership in USA als its safe use .. if you free plz do watch

Re: movie on gun culture

Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 7:29 pm
by to_saptarshi
I have already watched that movie twice. To me its nothing but an anti gun propaganda.

Re: movie on gun culture

Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 7:29 pm
by shooter
it won an oscar and we have discussed it in a thread in 07/08

and its bowling for columbine

Re: movie on gun culture

Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 7:30 pm
by Bill Poole
i don't think it features any "pro's"

I think its just hate-filled propoganda produced by an extreme marxist

I refused to watch it after reading the reviews...

Re: movie on gun culture

Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 9:51 pm
by xl_target
Michael Moore is known for his left-wing "documentaries". Well actually, I wouldn't even call them documentaries, they are usually one-sided diatribes. You will not learn anything positive from Michael Moore film. The reason that his films lack much merit are because they are filled with inaccuracies and are purposely misleading with the intention of trying to make the viewer come to a predetermined conclusion.
In my opinion, Michael Moore is an idiot who produces garbage that is eagerly lapped up by people who want to be told what their opinion should be. His fans are people who are unwilling to do their own research and make up their own minds.

Re: movie on gun culture

Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 10:01 pm
by rraju2805
Thanx for the info.

I am seeing the movie....

:cheers:

Re: movie on gun culture

Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 10:25 pm
by dr.jayakumar
i think the same goes for indian news media as XL_target says.

Re: movie on gun culture

Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 10:46 pm
by timmy
If you want to watch a movie that depicts the attitudes of anti-gun right groups in the USA, then watch this movie. It will give you an idea about what other people think. However, I don't think that the movie will have much value in any other sense.

Moore has done some other shows on health care and corporations. The one that brought him to fame was on General Motors. Some of these other works, I've found interesting, however I do most strenuously disagree with Moore's views on guns and RKBA.

The Coumbine thing, BTW, has some familiarity with me. The Roman Catholic Deacon who did a lot of the counseling (his parish was near Columbine High School) after the crisis is a friend of mine, and I talked to him briefly within hours of the attack. (We lived above this area in the mountains and one of my kids and his family lives near Columbine.) The attack turned the whole community upside down and it will never be the same.

The odd thing to me about this and other such attacks, like the recent one in Norway, is the constant focus on guns. Both at Columbine and Norway, bombs were also used (or, at least, attempted), but guns get the focus. When I was young, these sorts of things didn't happen. Guns had been around for a long time, but these "sprees" and massacres didn't go on with the use of guns.

What I don't understand is, why is there no focus on the underlying causes of these sorts of attacks? Why do people insist on focusing on the particulars -- that guns were used -- rather than why people in the last couple of decades have suddenly started resorting to this kind of violence? To my mind, the focus on guns seems to be a simplistic "band-aid" approach that fails to get at the root of the problem, and is thus doomed to failure.

My suspicion here is that people do not want to face the facts of why these things happen. We do not want to admit who we are and what we are becoming as a society.

Until the root causes are addressed, I believe that attempts to paper over the problem by implementing gun control ideas is doomed to failure. Many folks here, while arguing for the banning of firearms, argue for the legalization of drugs. In this, they point to the Prohibition period and note that people who wanted alcohol were going to get it, no matter what the law said. If this argument has validity, does it not also follow that criminals who want guns are also going to procure them, despite what the law says? I think that this is the case.

Re: movie on gun culture

Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 5:27 am
by hamiclar01
timmy wrote:
My suspicion here is that people do not want to face the facts of why these things happen. We do not want to admit who we are and what we are becoming as a society.
That is indeed the case. The media and politicos looking for quick fix solutions and scapegoats find it easy to fall in the anti gun brigade's propaganda.

If the member who posted this thread cares to dig prior threads on this documentary he will find links to websites where people have taken the time to dissect Moor's lies and scripted editing.

Interestingly, in the UK, most of the medical fraternity want to legalise drugs. Their logic: people who are liable to get addicted will get addicted anyway, at least they won't have to resort to crime, and will get a standardised poison, rather than getting their dope cut with contaminants. They also cite a surge in government revenue, and a sharp reduction in drug induced gang culture and crime. Strong legislation only breeds the underworld, fuelled by demand.

As usual, the most vehement oppositionis from the politicians and the media: any step in this direction seems unpopular, and contrary to their quick fix approach. In return, there have been a load of resignations of top medical experts from committees which ministers tried to arm twist.

Re: movie on gun culture

Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 5:49 am
by Priyan
That's Michael Moore, This picture sums it up
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ALWAYS keep your finger off the trigger until ready to shoot. -NRA
I say that picture should be banned because it promotes people to handle guns the wrong way.

That nice 'fiction' was based on events circulating around Columbine High School massacre if I remember correctly. Probably all the users here know that thats liberals trick, another massacre, use that massacre to promote tight gun law. Speaking of Columbine those guys were completely depressed and the lack of good guidance made them do what they thought was a heroic act, you can feel their mental state at that time if you read their journals. BTW I do wonder if those were the guy who gave Osama the idea to crash a plane at WTC.
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In this video he says he got enough security, what does security professionals protect him with, Pillows?

Re: movie on gun culture

Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 10:17 am
by dr.jayakumar
moore may thought of hitting the cover page?
and he has i beleive....