Guns and Vastu

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Re: Guns and Vastu

Post by Safarigent » Fri Oct 05, 2012 10:12 am

The shloka went like this,
And hang unto your western walls o warrior,
All your astr's and shastr's so that they may,
Bask in the glory of the morning sun.
And may mangal and soorya look upon them
And bless them to be with divine power in thy hands.

So, i guess that sorts out where to hang them.
The western wall, with a window preferably over it.

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Re: Guns and Vastu

Post by brihacharan » Fri Oct 05, 2012 10:51 am

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Don't display sharp objects such as swords, knives, firearms or hunting trophies on the wall. They generate negative energy and cause disharmony.
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Re: Guns and Vastu

Post by brihacharan » Fri Oct 05, 2012 10:53 am

[quote="Safarigent"]

The shloka went like this,
And hang unto your western walls o warrior,
All your astr's and shastr's so that they may,
Bask in the glory of the morning sun.
And may mangal and soorya look upon them
And bless them to be with divine power in thy hands.


So, i guess that sorts out where to hang them. The western wall, with a window preferably over it.

> Thanks ABM
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Re: Guns and Vastu

Post by BowMan » Fri Oct 05, 2012 11:07 am

Mack The Knife wrote:BowMan: I trust you have applied your mental faculties and studied the literature diligently. Mr. Tiwari and I await your public apology.
You have it unconditionally but let me say I have not finished reading the extensive text you gave me :stupid:

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Re: Guns and Vastu

Post by essdee1972 » Fri Oct 05, 2012 11:15 am

I once attended a course on institutional architecture. That was the time when this Vastu and Feng Shui fad was just coming into its own, so obviously there were a few questions on the same. What he said was that these were guidelines, in the absence of universal education, to help people live healthy, safe lives. E.g. door / window towards east would ensure early morning sunlight filling the room, hence warmth, killing germs, etc. Much like the "trees are Gods, don't cut trees" used by so-called primitive cultures. Or "apple a day" kinda dictums (or should that be dicta?).

Something like "don't sleep under a beam" would be because the wood, bamboo, or whatever beams they used all those hundreds of years ago were prone to collapse. Modern ferro concrete has no such danger in the normal course.

Taking ABM's translation of the shloka above and trying to fit in the above explanation. (By the way, ABM, I think the window should be in the East, facing the wall where the weapons are hung, so that the first rays of the sun hit the astr's).

Rays of the morning sun = the cleanest sunlight (as photographers say "golden hour").

Sunlight = Heat = dry, hence no rust / termites / insects. Today's equivalent would be Ballistol and WD40.

Also, with the good light (again, photographers!) of the morning, you could easily see any dust, dirt, rust, damage, blunt edges, etc. Esp. as you were (probably) in the habit of performing pooja of the arms, concentrating on each of them as you chanted the relevant mantras. ( I can't say how Mangal, i.e. Mars comes into the picture)

Just to clarify, I am a non-believer, or should I say "agnostic" in terms of Vastu, etc. Since that long-ago course, I try to get in and understand the "whys" rather than either following blindly, or the other extreme of considering it as utter nonsense. If the scientific explanation I come up with feels good, I try (or at least intend to try) to implement it.
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Re: Guns and Vastu

Post by Safarigent » Fri Oct 05, 2012 11:25 am

Hi, thats what i meant, the window opposite it, not over. My apologies. My mistake Writing too fast.if the wall on which the weapons are hung are is the western wall, then the window opposite has to be in the eastern wall. Ergo, early morning sun hitting the weapons!
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Re: Guns and Vastu

Post by TwoRivers » Fri Oct 05, 2012 11:53 am

Being new to Vastu, I have been wondering whether the recommendation of the west side of the house applies equally to both hemispheres? Or is the east side of the house the proper one for the western hemisphere? If it is, it will safe me a lot of trouble. You see, just about all of mine are on the EASTERN side of the house. Totally remodeling the house to a mirror floor plan is really out of the question. Lifting it off its foundation and rotating it 180 degrees would also create problems, leaving the driveway at the wrong end; and depriving us of the little sun we get in the winter. In either case, I'd find myself sitting with Hajji. Any help and suggestions from the devotees of Vastu would be greatly appreciated.

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Re: Guns and Vastu

Post by xl_target » Fri Oct 05, 2012 11:56 am

Just to clarify, I am a non-believer, or should I say "agnostic" in terms of Vastu, etc.
A Non-believer? :shock:
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Re: Guns and Vastu

Post by dev » Fri Oct 05, 2012 12:55 pm

thanks to mac I am assured of an easy victory at the GVM. I have been given personal tips on how to attach an aluminum framed pistol on the wall. this will soon be a sticky on the pistol shooting tips thread. :roll:
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Re: Guns and Vastu

Post by Mack The Knife » Fri Oct 05, 2012 4:25 pm

mr. mack the knife ,i meant the first paragraph.never ever heard about this subject.kindly enlighten.
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As you are well aware the presence of wood, disrupts the flow of magnetic energy. Since many shotguns have a removeable butt-stock, this is removed and stored else where - preferably in the western corner of the house. Unfortunately, many rifles come with a single piece stock and removing and reattaching it can get cumbersome. Not to mention the stripping of the bolt threads due to clumsy practices or the loss of zero for which we had already spent our annual quota of ammo.

Just as the bolt prevents the gases being blowed backwards it also disrupts the magnetic energy flow through the bore of the rifle. This is why it is recommended that the bolt be opened and drawn back. Now you may be wondering, and rightly so, why the bolt isn't withdrawn completely. Well, there are two schools of thought on this. The boltless school contend that the absence of the bolt permits an undisturbed flow of magnetic energy. On the other hand, the bolt drawn back fellows claim that this is not a good practice because they initially followed the boltless principle but forgot where they had stored their bolts. Since I have no way of knowing whether Mr. Tiwari is forgetful or not, I decided to err on the side of caution and advised him to keep the bolt drawn back. In recent times some of the bolt drawn back fellows, especially Pandit Kumless Safarigent, are of the opinion that the drawn back bolt acts as an antenna and attracts a large part of the magnetic energy that was dissipated by the wooden stock.

As for rifling twist direction, it was established by Einstein that a magnetic force (energy), in the northern hemisphere, traveling through a tube energised itself four folds if the tube had a helical with a clockwise twist and vice versa. In the case of rifles, the barrel and rifling take the place of the tube and helical in Einstein's experiment.

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Re: Guns and Vastu

Post by shooter » Fri Oct 05, 2012 7:17 pm

a colt 1911 and S&W have opposing directions of twists. Both equally popular in the USA which is in the nothern hemisphere.
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Re: Guns and Vastu

Post by Vikram » Fri Oct 05, 2012 8:25 pm

What about paradox guns? You know those both smooth-bore and rifled?


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Re: Guns and Vastu

Post by timmy » Sat Oct 06, 2012 4:13 am

Dear Mr. Knifeji:

I am very ignorant of the principles of Vastu. But just as an academic question, if I lived on the equator, could I benefit from hanging a shotgun with Damascus barrels on the wall, assuming that they had opposite twists? Or, would one cancel the other one out? I've followed your instruction here quite closely, and still wonder about this.
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Re: Guns and Vastu

Post by Mack The Knife » Sat Oct 06, 2012 7:23 am

xl_target: I have no knowledge of Feng Shui. Vaastu I know a bit off as I am an architect and need to apply it if requested by a client. This is how I came across the manuscript I have been refering to. I think you are more likely to get shot at in your own house if you cross the wife, rather than any old magnetic beam. This probably explains Hammerhead's reluctance in employing correct Vaastu principles.

Safarigent: Thanks for the translation but since when have shlokas been written in five lines? Please restrict yourself to the original and desist from taking any artistic licence on this subject. You are obviously not giving it the serious consideration that Mr. BowMan is.

essdee1972: For a scientific explanation please read my reply to Dr. JK's query.

TwoRivers: It is the western corner and not the western side that is important for storing your bundooks. The windows on the eastern side of your house are just fine. However, should it have been otherwise, some strategically placed mirrors in the lawn would have reflected the early morning sunlight into the western half of the house.

Dev: If after all these years you are still trying to qualify at GVM <snort!>, your chances of qualifying, leave alone winning, other than the wooden spoon, are rather slim. In anycase, it takes about two months, from the time of change/remodelling, before the effects of good or bad Vaastu begin to take effect or dissipate, respectively. I believe your competition is in November, so please use the time to practice good shooting form instead.

Shooter (Dr. Dave): We are discussing long guns here. If you wish to discuss handguns kindly start another topic. However, just for your information, the L-shaped frame of a handgun plays havoc with a magnetic field but more on that later.

Vikram: The same principles apply. The smooth bore section does not multiply the magnetic energy four fold but neither does it disrupt the flow.

Timmy: A smoothbore will help if one lives on the Equator but only marginally. Please see my reply to Vikram.
The Damascus patterns have no effect on magnetic energy as they do not protrude outwards.

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Re: Guns and Vastu

Post by xl_target » Sat Oct 06, 2012 8:24 am

I see a lot of assumptions being made here without any attribution or any links to additional scientific data.

There are two diametrically opposed schools of thought here, when applied to modern long guns and proper display of the same. One school believes in rigorous cleaning, especially in removing all traces of copper from the barrel.
According to New Age healers, Copper can stimulate the flow of energy and hence move psychic energies thereby helping the wearer overcome lethargic tendencies
link here
So if you like sitting on the couch and watching TV, you want to get all the copper out of the barrel or you won't be able to sit quietly and enjoy your newly Vastued or Feng Shuied room. If your weapons display is in your bedroom and you don't clean the guns properly, you're going to have problems sleeping, y'know restless leg syndrome and all that. Then your significant other is going to insist on your removal from there and you're going to be in the same boat as Haji; outside.

The others school of though touts the benefits of leaving the copper in the barrel:
It is used to alleviate cramp like symptoms, and also said to promote the smooth functioning of the glands, and can help prevent wear, tear and calcification of the joints.
link here
So if you suffer from PMS, get beat up regularly or just ate too much Pani Puri, this method is for you. If it is the latter ailment, you'd better hope your bathroom is also Vastued.


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