Heights of ignorance :P

[MoA]

Timmy
If you think ammunition costs are high in the US hop across the pond to Europe for an eye opener. Reloading goes a very long way in making shooting affoardable for me.
Shooting is a dying sport across the world, primarily due to the health and safety idiots in cahoots with the liberal sheeple. We have only ourselves to blame, since we sat back quietly while our values and rights gett trampled upon.

[timmy]

MoA: Reloading is definitely the way to go. Pistoleros are often running progressive Dillon presses here, since handgun shooting often burns up a lot of ammo in a short time. Years ago, when I had 4 little ones at home and very little money to shoot, I would go out to the range and scour the grounds and the roofs over the shooting positions for brass. I took a trowel and dug out the bank behind the targets and harvested the lead. The only thing I needed to buy was powder and primers, and some bullet lube. It took a long time for me to come up with 4 or 6 boxes of 45 ACP, and I could burn through those boxes in a New York Second on the combat range! Frankly, I couldn't afford it.

I've found that mil surp works well -- I can still buy lots of 7.62x54r to feed my Mosins and do a lot of practice.

But for really precision shooting, as you say, handloading is the only way to go, and if no surplus is available or it is too expensive, reloading is the only recourse.

For myself, I sometimes find working at a loading bench to be almost as relaxing as shooting, especially if one has all the tools. For instance, for handguns, carbide dies make a huge difference. However, it can take a long time to acquire all the tools that make reloading enjoyable. Loading up a considerable amount of ammo with something like a Lee Loader would be a tremendous pain -- but if that's what has to be done, that's that.

[m24]

Let's not talk about costs, MoA & Tim. Nobody can get into guns, if she/he starts to think about the costs. I guess, it's part of the deal.

As for being the loner part, I guess, all of us are our own true selves, no competition, nothing when we are alone with our guns. With anybody else around, there is always some kind of competition on. Who shot better, what ammo used, a little bit of show off and all that jazz.

Regards