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why no indian media coverage about RKBA
Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 10:55 am
by warthog
All i am seeing is that private security and armed ones.this is a sign of Stalin era fascism where private security have guns,hell this reminds me of British East India company.Why the media is silent on RKBA for citizens?Can we do something?.
Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 10:33 pm
by Rottmeister
Dude, nowadays media people just do a 9-5 job and are more inclined to secure their jobs; do you still expect them to raise a voice? I read a a piece of news at rediff; it starts this way -
"As if Indians don't have enough problems to deal with, the Indian Ordnance Factories is adding to the stockpile of arms among the public by offering 0.32 revolvers for sale."
You still expect them to raise a voice for RKBA?
An easy solution to this is that the GFI brings out a publication on their own (similar to the KCI monthly gadget); the funds can be raised from the donations by the members.
This plan has already been proposed, but we need people to support. Majority wins, you see.
Re: why no indian media coverage about RKBA
Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 5:36 am
by Oleg Volk
Look at the example of Canadian Firearms Journal. They are up against similar problems but managed to get it off the ground and self-supporting. You can get advertisers by pointing out that guns-owners in india are necessarily more affluent than the rest of the population.
Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 11:26 am
by shahid
How does the media write about a subject on which it has no clue ?
RKBA, calibres, difference between types of weapons are unknown to a normal journalist here.
Shooting, hunting are virtually closed chapters here. Those who pursue it are looked upon as wierdos and wild.
India wins Olympic medlas only in shooting events. It get attention for two weeks and is soon banished to archives promptly.
The problem is that a section of Indian administrators and politicians with the help of the media in the 1980s and 90s have sucessfully carried out an exclusive devious capmpaign maligning shooting sports and RBKA to success.
Because :
That only we will have access to international class arms.
We will remain better armed so that only we can feel secure not the other.
They will be able to sell imported weapons hoarded from Govt. Armouries and general public at exorbitant prices. A Walther PPK for example costs around US $ 16,000 and that too a second hand one.
A certain section of shooters want to remain on the national team despite scoring just 80 to 90 in skeet / trap. To do so they must deny a chance to young talent which is capable of shooting 100 to 115 any day.
These guys are a closely knit group of politicians , gun dealers and some others. They bribe judges and pull strings to get the scores they cant shoot.
Access to state shooting associations is controlled.
Obtaining a licence is deliberately made difficult – all powers resting with a District Collector or COmissioner who has paid over US $ 500,000 to the politicians to get posted for two years. He will usually come out with about 800,000 after his two years.
Hunting was murdered in India because sportsmen and poachers were classified in the same definition.
Our Bonny Prince Charles and a section of foreign media felt that the Royal family of Britain has had its fill of shooting Tigers in India and would like to hunt in England only.
So under the guise of WWF donation and protection scheme all SHikar concessions were stopped in 1984 because their masters abroad demanded it.
This gave the real poachers a clear playing field and profits soared which is shared by Indian politicians.
This lobby makes things difficult, denies RKBA, has killed shooting sports.
For more details send me your e mail
This is just the tip of the ice berg if I comment on all details and aspects a two volume book will be filled.
Re: why no indian media coverage about RKBA
Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 9:05 pm
by kanwar76
We can take this RKBA thing and shove it up where sun doesn't shine.. We are nothing but arms proliferators as told to me and one other member by top cop in Bangalore.
-Inder
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 12:07 am
by striker
Guns are Art -for most of commons its is just a "subject"
for Ifgians its a masterpiece/passion/more than a pet and so on.....
Re: why no indian media coverage about RKBA
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 12:27 am
by striker
shahid";p="64223 wrote:
How does the media write about a subject on which it has no clue ?
RKBA, calibres, difference between types of weapons are unknown to a normal journalist here.
Shooting, hunting are virtually closed chapters here. Those who pursue it are looked upon as wierdos and wild.
India wins Olympic medlas only in shooting events. It get attention for two weeks and is soon banished to archives promptly.
The problem is that a section of Indian administrators and politicians with the help of the media in the 1980s and 90s have sucessfully carried out an exclusive devious capmpaign maligning shooting sports and RBKA to success.
Because :
That only we will have access to international class arms.
We will remain better armed so that only we can feel secure not the other.
They will be able to sell imported weapons hoarded from Govt. Armouries and general public at exorbitant prices. A Walther PPK for example costs around US $ 16,000 and that too a second hand one.
A certain section of shooters want to remain on the national team despite scoring just 80 to 90 in skeet / trap. To do so they must deny a chance to young talent which is capable of shooting 100 to 115 any day.
These guys are a closely knit group of politicians , gun dealers and some others. They bribe judges and pull strings to get the scores they cant shoot.
Access to state shooting associations is controlled.
Obtaining a licence is deliberately made difficult – all powers resting with a District Collector or COmissioner who has paid over US $ 500,000 to the politicians to get posted for two years. He will usually come out with about 800,000 after his two years.
Hunting was murdered in India because sportsmen and poachers were classified in the same definition.
Our Bonny Prince Charles and a section of foreign media felt that the Royal family of Britain has had its fill of shooting Tigers in India and would like to hunt in England only.
So under the guise of WWF donation and protection scheme all SHikar concessions were stopped in 1984 because their masters abroad demanded it.
This gave the real poachers a clear playing field and profits soared which is shared by Indian politicians.
This lobby makes things difficult, denies RKBA, has killed shooting sports.
For more details send me your e mail
This is just the tip of the ice berg if I comment on all details and aspects a two volume book will be filled.
Re: why no indian media coverage about RKBA
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 12:51 am
by striker
shahid";p="64223 wrote:
Access to state shooting associations is controlled.
A very Good example is "Chennai Rifle club" .
A Good Sports man cannot enroll without 1.5 lakh .This is real fact that Every chennai shooters know
.
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 12:56 am
by eternalme
And who would have that amount of money ready to be shelled out , just for a membership is anyone's guess.
Re: why no indian media coverage about RKBA
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 1:02 am
by striker
eternalme";p="65689 wrote:
And who would have that amount of money ready to be shelled out , just for a membership is anyone's guess.
none other than black money miners
Re: why no indian media coverage about RKBA
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 5:40 am
by Oleg Volk
I think the best way to fight this would be to contrast the experience of Indians in the US to Indians at home. Somehow, expatriats with guns are not causing problems in the US.
Re: why no indian media coverage about RKBA
Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 3:55 pm
by shadow
Dear Comrades,
Here are some statistics & reports as mentioned in today's TOI Mumbai edition.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Citi ... 060885.cms
Are the authorities boasting of limited issuance - is this suppose to win a medal for controlling gun-ownership or a slap on their faces for making the country & its citizens vulnerable?
All these reports are making me nervous on one hand & head-strong on the other to get a licence.
Cheers,
Rup
Re: why no indian media coverage about RKBA
Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 11:27 am
by shadow
Dear Comrades,
This is in continuation of my earlier post on statistics that appeared in TOI, Mumbai edition.
Today's article is in reply to court's orders of stating the reasons of issuing firearms licence last year.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Citi ... 114850.cms
Cheers,
Rup