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[captrakshitsharma]

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England's increasingly repressive firearms laws often are praised by those who would restrict the American right to arms, so it is important to realize that those firearms laws, which now prohibit the private possession of handguns, rest heavily on one foundation--the British gun owner licensing system. The right to keep and bear arms had been alive in England for eight centuries when Parliament enacted the Pistols Act of 1903. The Act, which prohibited the sale of pistols to minors and felons, also dictated that pistols could be sold only to those who possessed a gun license. Since the license could be obtained at a post office with only the payment of a fee, and since no license was required to keep a pistol solely in the home, there was no opposition. But within a few short years, the licensing system had moved from the post office to the police station. Suddenly, Britons who wanted to own handguns--or rifles--had to prove they had "good reason" for receiving a police permit. Shotguns were considered "sporting" and were exempted from licensing requirements until 1967.

Anti-gun lobbyists in the United States have called for a "needs-based licensing" system and some politicians have lined up to do their bidding.

Is licensing gun owners a good idea? After all, "we license people to drive cars don't we?" If requiring gun owners to obtain a government license seems like a harmless idea to you, you may want to know about "Firearms Form 101." That's the "Application For A Firearms Certificate" that must be filled out by Britons in order to purchase a rifle or muzzleloading handgun. A separate form is required for a "shotgun certificate."

Section 27 of the Firearms Act of 1968 (as amended by the 1997 Act) requires a chief officer of the Police Firearms Licensing Department to be satisfied that the applicant is "fit to be entrusted with a firearm." (Emphasis added) As the applicant, you must provide: * Your home address for the last three years. * Your occupation and business address. * Information about previous convictions, including traffic violations. * Information about any history of Epilepsy. * Information about past treatment for drug use, depression or nervous disorders. * The name of your doctor, and permission for the police to search your medical records to obtain "factual details" about your medical history. * A list of the firearms you already own, including caliber, type, maker's name and serial number. * A list of the ammunition you already own, including caliber and quantity. * A list of the firearms you wish to purchase, stating the reason for wanting to purchase them and where you plan on shooting or hunting with them. * A list of the maximum amount of ammunition you wish to possess at any one time, by caliber. * A list of the maximum amount of ammunition you plan to purchase at any one time, by caliber. * An address where the guns will be stored, for possible future inspection. * Information about whether you have previously held a firearms certificate, or a shotgun certificate. * A letter signed by the secretary of your shooting club or each landowner where you plan to hunt attesting to the fact that you have permission to shoot at those locations. * Four passport size photos of yourself. * A fee of L56 (approximately $90).

As an applicant, you must also designate two "referees" who will fill out a reference form regarding your character. This form will never be shown to you even though it weighs heavily in the final decision to approve or deny the application. The "referees" must: * Have known you for at least the last two years. * Not be a member of your family, a firearms dealer, a police officer or a police employee. * Be of "good character." * Sign the application form declaring that it has been answered truthfully. * Sign and date the back of one of your passport photos attesting that it is an accurate representation of you at that time. * Explain in what capacity they have known you. * Indicate if they are members of a shooting club, and if so their license number and role in the club. * Provide their "opinion as to the applicant's suitability to possess firearms." * Provide information on your personal history, including any history of emotional problems, mental or physical disabilities and explain how knowledge of the information was gained. * Explain any difficulties you have with members of your family which "may give cause for concern given that a firearm or ammunition may be available in the household." * Explain their knowledge of your experience with firearms. * Explain their knowledge of your attitude toward firearms. * Be subjected to a background check and allow personal information to be held on a police computer.
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[alfaromeo17]

This is a nightmare...... seriously heartbreaking...

[Vikram]

I don't want to sound contrary, but we,Indians, are way past what is written there. That's written from American perspective,whose laws are much more firearms friendly.However, despite what's written there,firearm licensing is quite straight forward and commonsensical in UK.You fulfill what's required and you get your license. Not that it is perfect, but it is not draconian like Indian laws are. To feel threatened, look into our own laws and their implementation. You will find why it is absolutely necessary to become a member of NAGRI and support its efforts.

Best-
Vikram

[captrakshitsharma]

We need an organization in this country that will advocate the cause of legitimate gunownership . The biggest mistake people made in UK was to keep quiet and sit and hope that the government will not infringe upon their rights. They did not unite and come together before a complete ban on handguns and all semiautos was blanketed. Similar was the case in Australia. The US citizens are only safe to an extent because a strong organization like the NRA which has a strong political clout is working for gun rights . The organizations strength and political implications of going against what they stand for keeps politicians from messing with them. So please fill out and have your friends and family fill out and sign up for NAGRI. It is the best way to fight your fight and keep your rights.

[nagarifle]

it is not possible and we should not look at other countries arms law, as our own laws are very good. it is the lack of implantation and despot attitude of the babus in the issuing dept in hand with or rather underhand undermining of the arms act by the MHA etc that is the root problem. the Act says one thing MHA comes out with its own understanding which goes against the Act.

what we should look at is how others have or have not reacted to govnt doing away with citizen ownership of arms.

we should look at the crime figures to prove what works or do not work.

i am a firm believer in putting my cash where my mouth is: i will back any govrt /org who can promise me that the criminals will not be armed and the police will arrive within 5 minutes of being called. if they can not give a solid guarantee then they have no faith in their own works/policy.

therefor NAGRI is and should be supported to defend our right to self protection. if the government can not / will not or able not to protect us then who can we turn to?

if we want self protection and this is not just about how many guns we collect or have, to see it as a gun collection point view is wrong, its about the fundamental right to be safe and protected by any means possible.

[captrakshitsharma]

I fully agree i think the existing arms act is reasonable in all fairness though personally i I would have liked it to be a little more practical on the ammo quota etc.. but to be fair its intent was non malicious and fair. However the current regime is acting in a manner where it will slowly make arms ownership difficult and in a few years aim to pass a blanket ban.It infringes upon our freedom and violates our right to self protection. This specially so in an era where crime is high and policing inadequate, now u take our means of self protection..this is murder.

[MoA]

Unfortunately English laws are a lot easier than Indian laws. That is not to say that laws in England are good.

[goodboy_mentor]

Yes we are way past what is written there.

i will back any govrt /org who can promise me that the criminals will not be armed and the police will arrive within 5 minutes of being called.

Let us understand the fact that in the eyes of law, the role of Police(law enforcement machinery of State) and role of citizen(law enforcement machinery in individual capacity) in maintaining law and order is same. Whenever a citizen acts in self defense as per Sections 96 to 106 IPC he is doing nothing but enforcing the law in order to maintain law and order in society. Promises no matter how grand, cannot be traded with the rights of people. Waiting 5 minutes for Police is like waiting for eternity(granted that you are allowed to call the police in the first place, police pick up your phone call and understand your location).

i think the existing arms act is reasonable in all fairness

The very concept of licensing is the most unfair of all. It is the first step towards gradual disarming of people. The results of licensing are in front of us for all to see. We need to work for a license free era.