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Armed citizens Vs. Naxal terrorists
Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 3:21 pm
by mundaire
What happens when ordinary law-abiding citizens are armed? Read below for a prime example....
Villagers' outfit busts Maoist den
Prasun K. Mishra
Hindustan Times
SASARAM (BIHAR):
Determined to put an end to Maoist terror 25 villagers led by a former bandit king of the Kaimur plateau in Rohtas district attacked a Maoist headquarters on Monday morning.
They captured four Maoists and while more than 190 of them ran away.
Armed with outdated guns, villagers mounted an offensive on the heavily fortified Maoist headquarters of the KaimurVindhyachal zone.
The villagers, who have been using licensed weapons for many years, formed a 40-member Kaimur Shanti Sena headed by Ram Bachan Yadav on August 15. The 25-strong Sena team engaged the ultras in a 26-hour gun battle, which ended on Tuesday afternoon.
The team not only sent the Maoists scurrying out of the area but also forced four of them to surrender with huge cache of arms and ammunition.
A confidant of Ram Bachan Yadav told HT that the Sena team initially attacked about 20 Maoists with 14 .315 bore rifles and 11 double-barreled guns. By Tuesday, more than 170 Maoist reinforcements joined their comrades in the encounter.
Sena member Bahadur Yadav, an aide of the former bandit king, told HT from Kaimur that he had informed the district police about the encounter and asked for reinforcements.
“They promised to send us contingents of CRPF and district police from the Rohtas and Kaimur ranges along with members of the Special Task Force.
But they did not turn up. Had they arrived on time, the entire Maoist command would have been netted in one go,“ he said.
Shahabad DIG Sushil Khopde said he had directed police officers to reach Dhansa and help the brave villagers.
“But due to some logistics problems, they could not make it. I will inquire into what went wrong,“ he said.
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Re: Armed citizens Vs. Naxal terrorists
Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 3:34 pm
by Subal das
does not looks like Indian armed forces so much enthusiastic to fight maiost
perhaps they should higher those who are proved to be more capable
one of the principles formulated by Mao said - when attacked - withdraw
that seems like maosits made a tactical withdrawal rather they were defeated, more trouble for the Sena guys are ahead, and it clearly show how much they can count on government
Re: Armed citizens Vs. Naxal terrorists
Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 3:36 pm
by nagarifle
is ain't it this what the MHA call “
The proliferation of arms, whether licensed or illegal, vitiates the ‘Law and Order’ situation” i think we should notify the MHA and have this villagers disarmed and at latter date they can be murderd in cold blood while waiting for the MHA duptized armed forces to come to the rescue.
maybe the PM should see this
Re: Armed citizens Vs. Naxal terrorists
Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 3:53 pm
by Subal das
The government has sanctioned Rs 800 crore for anti-LWE operations and to improve security and mobility.
http://www.usiofindia.org/article_Jul_Sep09_7.htm
what is good in fighting maoists is that government can give some money and now money are gone, and mobility invisible
Re: Armed citizens Vs. Naxal terrorists
Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 4:02 pm
by Anand
As far as I know the Police are not given guns for attack, they have them for the express purpose of self defense and for the defense of citizens in general. The police cannot be at the scene of the crime the instant that it starts, especially in situations like Maoist attacks on villages where there may be no prior intelligence or warning.
The safety of citizens should not be entrusted exclusively to any state entity. The people must be able to defend themselves from such attacks whether the Police intervene at the correct time is a whole other ball game. A fine example of how arms in the hands of responsible citizens aid peace and security to the community. Had these brave villagers not had these arms they would very likely be dead. So how does the MHA explain the situation???
Regards,
Anand
Re: Armed citizens Vs. Naxal terrorists
Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 4:20 pm
by vrohan59
Anand wrote:As far as I know the Police are not given guns for attack, they have them for the express purpose of self defense and for the defense of citizens in general.
The police have guns for protecting our netas only
Re: Armed citizens Vs. Naxal terrorists
Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 5:16 pm
by nagarifle
Anand wrote: So how does the MHA explain the situation??? Regards,
Anand
they can not, as its is against their “The proliferation of arms, whether licensed or illegal, vitiates the ‘Law and Order’ situation” policy so they will turn a blind eye
and hope it does not get noticed by any one like us
Re: Armed citizens Vs. Naxal terrorists
Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 5:25 pm
by thomast1
Kaimur Shanti Sena ! an INDIAN milita! a set of civilians who deserve a medal of honour....
our paramilitary has more politics to play than out in the fields. And Chidambaram would skip this page of the newspaper with this report for sure..
Thomas
Re: Armed citizens Vs. Naxal terrorists
Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 5:54 pm
by winnie_the_pooh
Licensed arms clearly lead to a breach of law and order.The peace loving Naxalites(I am sure Ms Roy would agree with this description) were attacked by violent civilians armed with licensed arms.
The violent armed civilians also undermined the absolute monopoly of the police/state in tackling the Naxalites and in dealing with anti social/anti national elements.The civilians should have waited for the 'professionals' to handle the situation.
The vast majority of the police men suddenly experienced loose motions,stomach cramps and anxiety attacks and there were not enough toilets or doctors to treat them(poor fellows).This was the logistical problem that they faced.
I hope all the licensees saved the empties.I hope too that they made entries in a register as to
i) date on which they fired their guns/rifles ii) the place where they fired them iii)how many times they fired them and iv) the reasons for doing so.
26 hour long encounter (with 190 Naxalites),25 arms licensees,50 cartridges per licensee= 25x50/26 or 48.07 cartridges in an hour.
Re: Armed citizens Vs. Naxal terrorists
Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 7:47 pm
by Virendra S Rathore
26 hour long encounter (with 190 Naxalites),25 arms licensees,50 cartridges per licensee= 25x50/26 or 48.07 cartridges in an hour.
I don't think 50's limit would've been followed by book there. And reasonably so.
Heck .. if the villagers keep that 50 limit in the naxal 'door dehaat' (village), nothing would change for better. Rules of the game are vastly different in those villages.
Good job people .. !!
Kaimur Shanti Sena ! an INDIAN milita! a set of civilians who deserve a medal of honour..
26 hour long encounter (with 190 Naxalites),25 arms licensees
Armed men, humble and honorable men
Larry Niven:
'1a) Never throw shit at an armed man.
1b) Never stand next to someone who is throwing shit at an armed man.'
Re: Armed citizens Vs. Naxal terrorists
Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 9:52 am
by dr.jayakumar
ONE GOOD RESON TO ARM THE CIVILIANS.