Although there is already a post running on the first video, I just wanted to post two more and seek comments on them.
Many of you would disagree with the second one, but thats the fact and one of the major reasons for the RKBA.
Fighting against undemocratic govt.
Nevertheless I look forward to your comments.
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I have no idea how to post them on the IFG channel. If anyone could help me out I would be more than happy to see these videos on the official IFG channel.
Re: RKBA Videos
Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 12:17 pm
by vishosingh
great effort. we need to get the media in on this!!!
Re: RKBA Videos
Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 12:28 pm
by kanwar76
Aah.. can't see the vids in office
Re: RKBA Videos
Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 12:28 pm
by icemanV
You are right about the second vedio. Even though i am For RKBA i am not exactly comfortable with the contents of the clip.
But my congratulations on a very good compilation and effort. Please can you post the links to the music in the first vedio.
Ice
Re: RKBA Videos
Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 12:43 pm
by m24
As per my opinion, the facts you mentioned in the second video are of the failure of central / state administrations and machinery and not of the police. Police is just a tool in the hand of the central / state machinery.
Police failure would be the individual (uncountable) cases of murder, rape, kidnappings, and other atrocities that are blatantly being meted out to common man.
Regards
Re: RKBA Videos
Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 2:12 pm
by sa_ali
I am so moved and touched by the 2nd video that i dont have words to express it, Its a very well made video, music score selection is impact full yet subtle.
EXCELLLENT
One on lil on critic side, all intention to help you improve. I think the opening score, is gelling that well, can we get some historical note, something like beating retreat notes from civil wars time, or something like that was used in Lagaan movie in opening.
Then that flash of light on black ground and the fonts which follows after that, its flares and flash is not that impactfull, its didnt come across as that serious as the rest of it.least i would recommend using bigger font.
Then the tools concept is excellent, may be you can add another slide, which shows that u have specific tool for specific tasks, jst before that predator thing, something pistol=small petty criminal, Pirates or terrorist=automatic weapon.
Again these small inputs.
Its a very commendable effort and very well made. You should try sending the 2nd video to the small competitions which are held for non professional documentary making. Its really very well made.
Re: RKBA Videos
Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 9:33 pm
by raimanmeet
@ Vishosingh: Thanks.
@ Iceman: You have a right to disagree and thats what democracy and freedom are for. I did not quite understand what you mean by the links for the audio. Could you please clarify.
@ Kanwar: Take your time. Nothing is complete at IFG without your expertise. Look forward to your suggestions.
@ m24: The police being an organ of the state, is both independantly as well as jointly responsible for any criminal activities it allows to happen. The RKBA had a few objectives apart from self defense, and one of them was to ensure that no undemocratic govt. takes controk of the state. If police failes or is rather made to fail is a problem not only of the state machinery but also of the citizens. Giving assurances that less guns = less crime when there is state sponsored crime all around is a farce and needs to be taken of. A citizen is fighting two enemies one within and the other from outside the country. He has no idea with whose bullet his life would come to an end. My objective in the second video was to highlight the facts and figures and generate debate that protecting oneself as well as the country is not the job of the security forces but rat
her an obligation on all of us. So why not be prepared now.
@ Sa_ali: I am happy to know that you enjoyed the video. Thanks for your comments and the inspiration. Well I am not pro at this stuff, but just am experimenting to make sure that RKBA is a reality in India.
Re: RKBA Videos
Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 10:03 pm
by icemanV
@raimanmeet
I do not know the source of music which was used in the both compilations, by source i meant the sound tracks and their authors.
A simple pointers to the album would suffice.
Ice
Re: RKBA Videos
Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 10:38 pm
by raimanmeet
Oh!!
In the first video I have taken the sound tracks from Black Hawk Down. Its the first soundtrack in the movie and the other half is from the movie named Contender by Hans Zimmer.
In the second vid the background music is from the movie Braveheart titled Love.
Re: RKBA Videos
Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 10:47 pm
by icemanV
thank you
Ice
Re: RKBA Videos
Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 10:49 pm
by kanwar76
Manmeet first Video is awesome. Second is also made very well but its giving too much of religious, political and anti Indian vibes. I have no doubt that you don't have any intension like that but to an average Joe it may sound like that.
I would rather put data (If available) of crimes committed by illegal guns, illegal guns captured by police, rapes, robberies etc
I hope you understand what I want to convey here. I request you to remove second video from you tube because I don’t think we would like to see IFG termed as political or Anti Indian. There are many people out there to harm us, I don’t want to give them a chance.
My two cents, if you or anybody else disagrees with me then please go with majority.
I really appreciate the time you invest in RKBA related issues and I love the fire you have in you. If we want to see dream of RKBA realise in INDIA then we need more people like you for sure.
Regards,
-Inder
Re: RKBA Videos
Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 12:43 am
by raimanmeet
@ Inder: Even I was not very pleased with the second video, but was just experimenting. I am now planning another video on crime and guns. My research is on and will very soon come up with the third video. I would appreciate if more people could participate and then if the majority feels that the second vid is offensive I will immediately remove it from the public domain.
Well being into law and having a keen interest in civil rights is what makes me work towards RKBA.
I also have another suggestion and would like to take it further. I worked along with Prof. Adam Winkler who is an expert on second amendment and has been quoted by the US Supreme Court in both the recent decisions. If we could have a space for eminent personalities like them to write a note or an article by sending them an official invitation would not only further strengthen our support all across the globe but will also be very helpful when we need help.
I am sure that if I speak with prof. Winkler and request him to write something for our forum he would gladly agree.
Prof. Winklers profile and his recent press releases:
kanwar76 wrote:Manmeet first Video is awesome. Second is also made very well but its giving too much of religious, political and anti Indian vibes. I have no doubt that you don't have any intension like that but to an average Joe it may sound like that.
I would rather put data (If available) of crimes committed by illegal guns, illegal guns captured by police, rapes, robberies etc
I hope you understand what I want to convey here. I request you to remove second video from you tube because I don’t think we would like to see IFG termed as political or Anti Indian. There are many people out there to harm us, I don’t want to give them a chance.
My two cents, if you or anybody else disagrees with me then please go with majority.
I really appreciate the time you invest in RKBA related issues and I love the fire you have in you. If we want to see dream of RKBA realise in INDIA then we need more people like you for sure.
Regards,
-Inder
Re: RKBA Videos
Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 5:44 pm
by Virendra S Rathore
Can we use anything from this or take ideas from it ??
Some brits woke up lately.
Re: RKBA Videos
Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 6:41 pm
by Vikram
Manmeet,
I admire the efforts you are putting in. Please do not take it as discouraging them. The second video is way too politically combustive and can easily be misrepresented/misconstrued.If we can keep the content focused on the inability of the government than making them active collaborators to the riots etc, that could be acceptable to most.JMHO.
Virendra S Rathore wrote:
Can we use anything from this or take ideas from it ??
Some brits woke up lately.
That was a good few years ago when ban on fox hunting was imposed.