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Re: Review of Arms Act and Arms policy

Post by Virendra S Rathore » Tue Jan 05, 2010 12:09 pm

Gentlemen,

Email is sent to MHA and copied to above 80 entities including
Sonia Gandhi, Arun Jaitley, Sushma Swaraj, Jaswant Singh, Home Ministrer, Defence Minister etc, prominent MPs, political parties, media houses/newspapers, civil liberty NGOs, Think tanks etc.
Links to the "draft objections" and "right to protection" documents are promoted at my Orkut and Facebook page.

Are we formulating a strategy of our upcoming actions or is it a wait & watch right now?
This momentum needs to be kept building.
Please discuss what needs to be done next.

And .. lets keeping patting each others backs :) .. way to go

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Re: Review of Arms Act and Arms policy

Post by shooter » Tue Jan 05, 2010 1:54 pm

mundaire wrote:Asides from our own membership which has rallied together like never before in full support against these irrational policy measures, in the past few days I have been in constant touch with Shutzen who has been more than just supportive, in every which way - thinking of suggestions on tactics, calling up people, putting me in touch with people he thought could help the cause, etc., and also Perazzi & Shahid who sent in their objections promptly burying any personal differences - for the common cause of all gun owners, Olly who took the initiative to ensure that people on other websites were kept in the loop and could contribute in time etc. I would like to thank all of these gentlemen, I mention them specifically as it takes a big man to bury his own ego for the greater good of all.
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Re: Review of Arms Act and Arms policy

Post by amit888_2000 » Tue Jan 05, 2010 6:08 pm

well guys it seams we have done this time.......lots of guys have give me there consent....like rajive sharma --personal & dsra....gujrat state, bihar, up lots from up like ----lucknow, berallie, varanasi, more..., 400+ shooters---------and connected & concern people ....

My personal thankx to Sukpreet, abhijeet, vikram, nishant, manav rachna institute, & indian shooting.com (shimon),........and all those connected & concern....

But guys this does not end here...........it has the start......we have to start meetings, take conscent of all those with us, for filling PIL as discussed earlier for import & a complaint in WTO.....as suggested by NRAI....and in case something happens to the present policy immediate file of PIL against it......

what do u say guys ???

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Re: Review of Arms Act and Arms policy

Post by goodboy_mentor » Tue Jan 05, 2010 8:05 pm

Contacted Executive Director-Asia Operations at his cell for http://www.bhojpuriindia.org/committees.php had a word with him on phone and forwarded the email.

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Re: Review of Arms Act and Arms policy

Post by Virendra S Rathore » Tue Jan 05, 2010 8:44 pm

I have these email addresses regarding the same and have an email drafted for it:
[email protected],
[email protected],
[email protected],
[email protected],
[email protected],
[email protected]


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Re: Review of Arms Act and Arms policy

Post by goodboy_mentor » Tue Jan 05, 2010 9:08 pm

Guys these are emails/phone numbers are for public, on public websites, hence if anyone feels like sending them emails or call he is free. Do not hesitate, just because I had a word with one individual. BTW I have mailed all above emails.

BTW, if MHA still does not see reason, be prepared for filling legal case/PIL etc.

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Re: Review of Arms Act and Arms policy

Post by dev » Tue Jan 05, 2010 9:22 pm

Good show brothers nothing like a little trouble to get a family together. We need to get the newspapers vocal about this. The silence seems really eerie...have talked to a journo friend or so. I guess this would be a good time to echo Moses errr...Charleston Heston," From my cold dead fingers..."

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Re: Review of Arms Act and Arms policy

Post by mundaire » Wed Jan 06, 2010 1:10 am

Right on...! We must now prepare for the media & judicial battle ahead. Those of you who are in touch with others locally (city/ state/ district etc.) please organise together, select a pointman/ main contact person from amongst yourselves and let webmaster [at] indiansforguns [dot] com or me (via PM) know with whom to communicate, how many are willing to contribute in terms of time/ getting relevant people on board/ touching base with the media etc. Some of you I am already in touch with, rest lets touch base ASAP and begin to work together on this issue.

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Re: Review of Arms Act and Arms policy

Post by Vikram » Wed Jan 06, 2010 6:05 am

I have been giving it a thought. How about we start "Contact your Local MP and MLA?" campaign? All we need to do is write a letter and send along the two documents already prepared to them asking to represent out concerns. It is simple yet effective. We will not need to expend too much energy on this. Identify each state and and ask our members from that state to write a letter to the MPs from that state.Once done, we will strike a check mark.That way we can keep tally of the people covered.JMHO.

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Re: Review of Arms Act and Arms policy

Post by m24 » Wed Jan 06, 2010 9:35 am

Vikram,

I will do that with the MP and MLA of my area by tomorrow. More suggestions needed people, as all new ideas will lead to advertising our cause.

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Re: Review of Arms Act and Arms policy

Post by mundaire » Wed Jan 06, 2010 11:22 am

Good idea, for MP/ MLA letters lets do a 1 page letter with bulleted points, easy & quick to scan and understand, so that the concerned person (MLA/ MP) can understand the core issues within 5 minutes. Then if he wishes to understand the in depth arguments he can read the 2 documents themselves. I would suggest all three items be sent in English as well as the local official language. Will try to get the Hindi translation done and penpusher to try and get the Punjabi translation done. Who else here can help us with the translations into other official languages/ proof reading the same? Please come forward ASAP there isn't much time.
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Re: Review of Arms Act and Arms policy

Post by shadow » Wed Jan 06, 2010 11:27 am

Dear Comrades,

What happens now? When will MHA announce the new policy? I applied for membership in MRA and my interview (for reasons to join etc) is scheduled this weekend. From the vibes being shared by the administrative office including a couple of office-bearers, and as shared in my previous posts too, are so finicky about the fact that MRA is not for people who want licences for firearms or for security personnels who want to practice shooting etc. It is purely for people who want to pursue shooting as a sport only. Nonetheless, now that am about to get in-roads into MRA soon, will try & promote this cause as much as possible and keep you posted. Any members here from MRA who thinks otherwise, pls correct me?

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-- Wed Jan 06, 2010 11:29 --
mundaire wrote:Good idea, for MP/ MLA letters lets do a 1 page letter with bulleted points, easy & quick to scan and understand, so that the concerned person (MLA/ MP) can understand the core issues within 5 minutes. Then if he wishes to understand the in depth arguments he can read the 2 documents themselves. I would suggest all three items be sent in English as well as the local official language. Will try to get the Hindi translation done and penpusher to try and get the Punjabi translation done. Who else here can help us with the translations into other official languages/ proof reading the same? Please come forward ASAP there isn't much time.
Dear Abhijeet,

I can help with translation in Gujarati & Marathi.

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Re: Review of Arms Act and Arms policy

Post by Vikram » Wed Jan 06, 2010 11:38 am

I can do Telugu translation. But, to do that we need that one page summary. It's 0600 in the morning here.It will be evening before I come out of my comatose.If you would like me to do that,please email me what you would like me to do and I will get cracking.Or if you would like to save those hours, please get someone to do that. Thank you.

Lets target each state, identify willing members from there and assign them their tasks. Anchors aweigh!

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Re: Review of Arms Act and Arms policy

Post by goodboy_mentor » Wed Jan 06, 2010 11:41 am

Right on...! We must now prepare for the media & judicial battle ahead.
How about we start "Contact your Local MP and MLA?" campaign?
I agree with above opinions, moreover I would suggest IFG to start a newsletter to make all IFG members aware of shooting sport, RKBA etc. and request the recipients in turn to promote it by sending to their M.P.s, M.L.A.s, NGOs helping victims of violent crimes by criminals/terrorists etc., friends, colleagues, relatives, post on blogs, media etc. The reason for this suggestion is because in India, most people still have a great phobia of arms and believe "government" as the only entity to provide security at all times. Anyone promoting RKBA is perceived by most, as somebody who is trying to indirectly promote "chaos" and "law & order" problem in the country. What they fail to understand is that criminals all over the world are able to get arms no matter what the law is. On the contrary any violent crime is encouraged by imbalance of power.
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