Review of Arms Act and Arms policy

[cottage cheese]

..if I recall vaguely, the last Arms Act Review (Committee) was in 1980, after which more stringent amendments were added...

One should not have any delusions about the establishment's attitude to Arms legal or illegal. Often it is found convenient to expedient not to differentiate between the two. If the verbal wank of the anti gun lobby is anything to go by, you can be pretty sure the establishment will be more than happy to oblige and tighten the screws even more.

Earlier this year, weren't there dark mutterings of reduction of the three gun limit to one?

Be afraid, be very afraid.

[hvj1]

ABSOLUTELY AGREE, now is the time to do something, otherwise as Mundaire has put it ,we will lose whatever freedom we now have.

[eternalme]

Good news !!!

The government has an online grievance redress system , the objectives are as mentioned below -

"This service is aimed at providing the citizens with a platform for redress of their grievances. If you have any grievance against any Government organization in the country, you may lodge your grievance which will go to the Ministry/Department/State Government concerned for immediate redress. The grievances arising out of Unsatisfactory response or No response from the Ministry/Department concerned will be taken up by the PG officers of DAR&PG who will take up the matter with the Ministry/Department concerned for close monitoring and expeditious redress. The DAR&PG has been making endeavours to redress grievances of citizens in a meaningful manner by effectively coordinating with different Ministries and Departments of the Government and trying to eliminate the causes of grievances. For the complete list of Directors (Nodal Officers) of Public Grievances in GoI, please visit http://grievance.nic.in/cpgrams/pgo.asp "

We can raise our voice and lodge online complaint against the ministry of home affairs, this being a democracy they have to resort to some solution, if we don't do anything there is no chance anything will be done or our voice will be heard, then they will go to parliament with their agenda , but this is out country and we have out rights, they don't own the country .Lets atleast raise the concerns.
the link is below I will also post the link at some other location as a main thread and probably the moderators can make it sticky so that other members can also file their complaint and suggestion.

http://grievance.nic.in/Netizen/arpgn.a ... evance&wcu

[Anand]

I agree with Abhijeet on this, we need to be afraid, I have never seen or heard of (in India at least) where a law was changed for the true betterment/benefit of the people. It is usually done in order to appear as if the Government is doing something about a given bad situation. Often times it is done simply to make governance easier or make people more compliant.

Usually fear of the people, by the government is one of the main reasons such stringent actions are taken, as in cases of illegal overthrow of an existing legitimate government, or a civil war of some sort.

Unfortunately, if some one advocates beneficial changes in the Arms Law such as removing some of the unnecessary and ridiculous requirements/rules, then they may be termed as radical or proposing making it easier for criminals to get arms. The fact that criminals don't obey laws to begin with, and no matter how the law is written they will find a way, is something that is lost on the bureaucracy. This mindset where the some of the media and others wish to push their agenda for the disarmament of law abiding gun owners is an unacceptable and dangerous situation.

Each time a situation occurs where the criminal use of illegal arms takes place the first thing done is penalise all legitimate arms licensees with more ridiculous rules and requirements.This is neither beneficial nor according to the spirit and essence of the Arms Law.

The law must be analysed systematically and in an unbiased manner to see where and how the criminal element may be procuring their arms, this must be plugged if not addressed adequately before. If enforcement is not adequate how will new laws make any difference?

Legitimate arms licensees must be benefited from any changes to the Arms Law and difficulties caused for criminals. Not inordinate inconveniences caused to legitimate gun owners while the criminal element laughs at the whole situation.
Regards,
Anand

[kanwar76]

BTW when is this bill going to be presented?

-Inder

[eternalme]

All ,

I have posted the link for submitting your grievance regarding present Arms act in the post below , kindly raise your voice.

http://www.indiansforguns.com/viewtopic ... 869#p83869

[lionheartguru]

[Anand]

Times of India (Hyderabad) had an article today mentioning the review of the Arms Act, salient points being:
1. No issue of licenses without verification(earlier the LA could issue if the verification did not come
within 3 months),Verification time frame reduced to 60 days, if it does not come then the LA can ask
for it "forthwith" but can issue only after it comes.
2. National database of Arms Licensees to be constituted
3. All India Validity may be allowed for 3 years
4. OCI persons can only be issued a license on basis of family heirloom
5. Widened scope of "legal heir" under family heirloom category now includes brother, sister, son-in-law,
daughter-in-law.
6. Grant of license to police & paramilitary personnel awarded weapons during training or passing out
parade.
7. States may consider All India Validity for Union Minister, MPs,Paramilitary personnel, officers of All
India Services and those with liability to serve anywhere in India.
8.Annual audit of confiscated ,seized and recovered weapons.

My questions:
Except for the prescribed time frame for verification and the National database, how is the new policy going to deter armed crime? "All India Validity (AIV) may be allowed for 3 years" Does this mean this "validity" has to be renewed every 3 years, or, only AIV licenses will be renewable every 3 years while others will be renewable for lesser periods?

If anyone can get the actual draft policy we can look at it point by point and possibly write to the MHA.Rather than looking at an Newspaper article which may not have included certain pertinent points
or may have printed their "interpretation" of the policy.
Regards,
Anand

[winnie_the_pooh]

http://www.mha.nic.in/pdfs/DAAM-PolicyI ... 211209.pdf

[goodboy_mentor]

f anyone can get the actual draft policy we can look at it point by point and possibly write to the MHA.Rather than looking at an Newspaper article which may not have included certain pertinent points
or may have printed their "interpretation" of the policy.

Please refer http://indiansforguns.com/viewtopic.php?f=44&t=8312 for the draft. Views are invited from general public, requesting to submit the views by 6.1.2010, this is the time.

[winnie_the_pooh]

f anyone can get the actual draft policy we can look at it point by point and possibly write to the MHA.Rather than looking at an Newspaper article which may not have included certain pertinent points
or may have printed their "interpretation" of the policy.

Please refer http://indiansforguns.com/viewtopic.php?f=44&t=8312 for the draft. Views are invited from general public, requesting to submit the views by 6.1.2010, this is the time.

You have posted the wrong link.Please refer to my earlier post.

[goodboy_mentor]

I'm sorry, I stand corrected, I have referred the link for discussion on "Draft Arms and Ammunitions Manufacturing Policy" instead of "Draft Arms and Ammunitions Policy"

The correct link is http://www.mha.nic.in/pdfs/DAAM-PolicyI ... 211209.pdf

I will be shortly posting the contents of the email for all to comment/give their opinion before being sent to MHA as my opinion( I request all to send their opinion by 6.1.2010, as this is the time when we can help some positive change. Requesting the admin to send email to all members of IFG requesting the same, once a final draft acceptable email has been finalized by them)

[casual shooter]

please visit this site for the new arms act draft policy they have requested public opinion
http://www.mha.nic.in/pdfs/DAAM-PolicyI ... 211209.pdf

[m24]

casual shooter, thanks for the link.

Mods: Can you please merge this post with http://www.indiansforguns.com/viewtopic ... 3&start=15

Regards

[vkjalan]

New means and methods to screw a common mans interest. Gr8 going. I dont understand why they need to issue licenses itself. Cancel all Licenses issued all over India and Ban everyone from owning and possessing fire arms. The rules were so strict anyways now this. Gr8. Hats off to the government of India.

Nothing much to say. Because we anyways are so frustrated with all that is happening and this is like a icing on the cake.