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Hello from Germany
Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 4:40 pm
by db8us
Hello IFG Forum,
my name is Michael, i am living in Germany but will relocate to Pune in January.
I am born 1965 and work in the IT-field (who would have guessed that
)
I have a gun-license since more than 20 years and currently own a
Bruenner CZ75 9mm, a Ruger GP100 .357Mag and a rifle K98 with .308Win (7,62x51) and just started to shoot with a Benelli M3 12/76 semi-automatic.
During army-service (it was mandatory at that time for 15months) i used some more weapons.
No i am also wondering if i have any chance to bring my guns legally to India, by entering a local gun-club in Pune and get a recommendation letter and then apply for a permit ?
I was pointed to your website by the website of Mr. Abhijeet Singh when i searched for "guns and law in India".
My other hobbies are scuba-diving and sailing and i am a licensed amateur-radio operator.
That?s it for the moment.
Now i will browse some more in your forum.
Michael
Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 7:52 pm
by Mack The Knife
Hi Michael,
Welcome to IFG.
I am not sure if you could bring a gun down to India but check with the Indian Embassy and mention the type of firearm and calibre you wish to bring down as we do have restrictions on the type of calibres that Indian citizens can hold without going through a very laborious process. You may be limited to 50 rounds.
Pune does does have a shooting club and one of our Pune based members should be able to guide you better.
Best wishes.
Mack The Knife
Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 7:58 pm
by db8us
Thankyou Mack The Knife !
The problem will be, if i can not take them, i have to check where i can legally deposit them here.
Let?s wait until someone from Pune answers here and the embassy. I emailed them twice, but no response so far.
Which calibers are not allowed ?
Greetings
Michael
Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 12:08 am
by sat
Welcome to IFG. Your Bruenner CZ75 9mm will not be allowed, its a prohibited bore. Other P bore's that I know of are .38 cal, .45, 5.56mm, 7.62.
As long as your K98 has .308Win stamped on the barrel and your licence, you should not have a problem
Do not think it is a good idea bring your Benelli M3 semi auto..
I did hear of a German couple who I think worked for the Indo-German chamber of commerce in Mumbai, they had got their firearms with them. So am sure you can bring in some of your firearms.
sat
Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 1:42 pm
by db8us
Okay, thanks once more for the Info.
So i guess, it is that "Military" calibers are not "liked".
Maybe i just wait and see what the Embassy will say !
Michael
Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 12:36 am
by eljefe
Michael, de vu2 xtc, handle ACE.
Welcome aboard.Guess you will have to try very hard to get in your guns here, major problems , you own a lot of 'verboten' weapons-the 9mm, semi auto shotgun, and the 7.62.if its made in Germany, I am sure it will have the caliber stamped in metric 7.62mm, aha-take him away and lock him up...
I am a gun freak, into amateur radio and a PADI certified open water diver.Have done rescue, but yet to go and collect my card...usual of me! I wish I could be here all the time, but for a living, I have to work as an ER physician.
Hope to see you often
Best
Axx
Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 12:03 pm
by db8us
Hmmm i have to check, maybe .308Win is on the rifle and nobody would suspect that it?s the same as 7,62
But then there is still the problem of ammunition.
My Amateur-callsign is DB8US and it looks much easier to apply for a radio-license once i have a permanent adress.
So if i can not bring my gns, we might at least meet on the air.
Do you know if there is any cave-diving done ?
I have checked that i can leave the guns with my brother, when i lock them in a safe and take the keys with me.
So maybe i FIRST move there and talk to the authorities instead of just "showing up with guns" when i am relocating
Thanks to everyone for the good advice !
Michael
Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 3:53 pm
by eljefe
Michael, Contact my friends Venkat & Karen who run a scuba dive shop in marriot hotel, panjim Goa.Am sure you will drop by there for winter
No cave diving that I know of, overhead yes,WW2 wrecks off Panjim.
Best
Axx
Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 8:31 pm
by mehulkamdar
Hello Michael,
Even if you cannot take your guns to India with you, you should be able to get some shooting when you're there. Just meet some of the members on the IFG and have fun. Most rifle clubs allow you to borrow club guns and shoot them, but this is only for 22 lrs.
Good luck and I hope you enjoy your stay in India,
Mehul
Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 9:40 pm
by Mack The Knife
mehulkamdar wrote:Most rifle clubs allow you to borrow club guns and shoot them, but this is only for 22 lrs.
Not sure about Poona but in Bangalore you need to be a member before you can borrow a firearm or even shoot your own at the range.
I have drawn Zubin's attention to this thread, so unless he is out of station we will soon learn what the shooting situation in Poona is like.
Mack The Knife
Re: Hello from Germany
Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 10:07 am
by perazzi
Hi ,
Even in Delhi you first need to become a member of Tuglakabad and only then are you allowed inside. Also you need to show a valid Indian arms licence with the weapon endorsed on it and only then can you hire out the same weapon.
If you a have a pistol endorsed , you cannot get a weapon to shoot skeet/trap.
Cheers Rohit.
Re: Hello from Germany
Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 12:53 pm
by Mack The Knife
Also you need to show a valid Indian arms licence with the weapon endorsed on it and only then can you hire out the same weapon.
If you a have a pistol endorsed , you cannot get a weapon to shoot skeet/trap.
Considering most target shooters apply for a licence only after they have tried a few firearm disciplines and decided what they would like to pursue and then buy the appropriate firearm, that is a stupid and restrictive policy.
Fortunately, this is not the case at all shooting clubs. Infact, this is the first time I have heard of such a policy.
Mack The Knife
Re: Hello from Germany
Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 10:01 pm
by db8us
As soon as i move to Pune, i will check out local clubs and then i will see what to do.
Anyway, i will also read this board and try to be updated about laws, guns etc.
Greetings
Michael
Re: Hello from Germany
Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 11:21 pm
by Mack The Knife
Michael,
I have contacted my friend in Poona. The moment his computer is up and running, he will answer your questions and anything else related to shooting in Poona.
Mack The Knife
Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 4:56 pm
by eljefe
Michal,
in your pic, is that an elbit sight over the ?MP5
best
Axx