Identify this gun???

Ranjeet Singh · Post by **Ranjeet Singh** » Tue Oct 03, 2006 1:58 pm

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n182 ... CN1808.jpg

well, the top one of course is a M16 in civilan version for the German market..

No Prizes for getting the other one right..for I don't know myself what is this one.. Saw it the other day at the range..

Regards
Ranjeet

Post by **dev** » Tue Oct 03, 2006 5:35 pm

Me like black gun...the other one seems like an inline henry or a hawkin black powder thingie.

Is that m-16 yours? At one time I really loved it.

regards,

Dev

Ranjeet Singh";p="4149 wrote: http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n182 ... CN1808.jpg

well, the top one of course is a M16 in civilan version for the German market..

No Prizes for getting the other one right..for I don't know myself what is this one.. Saw it the other day at the range..

Regards
Ranjeet

HSharief · Post by **HSharief** » Tue Oct 03, 2006 6:22 pm

Its a Springfield Trapdoor.

monty3006 · Post by **monty3006** » Tue Oct 03, 2006 8:31 pm

Hsherif,
It doesn't look like the .45/70 springfield trapdoor. I could be wrong but this seems like a custom made gun on old action.
Monish

Ranjeet Singh · Post by **Ranjeet Singh** » Thu Oct 05, 2006 12:05 am

dev";p="4158 wrote:
Is that m-16 yours? At one time I really loved it.

Dev

No Dev, Its not my gun, and never shot one either...just saw it

The other one is a very old gun, don't know which one is that..I just know it shoots a very large caliber, 500 or something..

Here is another pic...

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n182 ... titled.jpg

Regards
Ranjeet

Ranjeet Singh · Post by **Ranjeet Singh** » Thu Oct 05, 2006 12:18 am

HSharief";p="4162 wrote:Its a Springfield Trapdoor.

Hi Sharief,

Can you confirm this with this another pic..Want to name the pic properly..if someone asks..

Regards
Ranjeet

HSharief · Post by **HSharief** » Thu Oct 05, 2006 1:12 am

I'm pretty sure its a Springfield Trapdoor. Like Monty pointed out before, it shot a 45/70 mostly. The one in your picture could be a crazy custom. Just google some images for this and you'll see. Uberti makes replicas still.

Post by **Grumpy** » Thu Oct 05, 2006 4:33 am

It`s a Trapdoor Springfield but one of the Italian repros - probably a Pedersoli.

Post by **dev** » Fri Oct 06, 2006 11:20 am

Hey,

I just got it. I think its a Sharps 45-70, the buffalo hunting rifle of the wild west. Those trap door kinda thingies stuck in my mind.

Regards,

Dev

Ranjeet Singh";p="4318 wrote:
dev";p="4158 wrote:
Is that m-16 yours? At one time I really loved it.

Dev

No Dev, Its not my gun, and never shot one either...just saw it

The other one is a very old gun, don't know which one is that..I just know it shoots a very large caliber, 500 or something..

Here is another pic...

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n182 ... titled.jpg

Regards
Ranjeet

HSharief · Post by **HSharief** » Fri Oct 06, 2006 6:59 pm

The Sharps is a rolling/falling block type receiver with the trigger guard used to load rounds into the chamber. The gun in the picture clearly has a trapdoor receiver. In the words of George Tenet "It's a slam dunk".

mehulkamdar · Post by **mehulkamdar** » Fri Oct 06, 2006 9:39 pm

It is not at all a Sharps 1874. Two Italian companies make the Trapdoors - Pedersoli and Aldo Uberti. This one could have been made by either of them. It is not a very strong gun and if you're planning on buying it you would have to take care to shoot it very little, and with low powered loads.

Cheers!

Mehul

Post by **Grumpy** » Fri Oct 06, 2006 11:27 pm

Too true Mehul. I`ve seen pictures of blown-up Trapdoors - both original and reproduction. The design doesn`t inspire confidence as it is inherently weak.
I still think the pictured example is probably a Pedersoli -just from the style of the woodwork.

Post by **dev** » Fri Oct 06, 2006 11:51 pm

All right I got it wrong. Thanks for revealing the difference but the caliber is a 45/70?

I thought I saw a trigger guard but that's just my bad eye.

Regards,

Dev

Post by **Grumpy** » Sat Oct 07, 2006 1:51 am

? The Trapdoor Springfield does have a trigger guard. What HSharief was describing is the opening mechanism of the Sharps which utilises the trigger guard to do so in a dual purpose role, rather than employing a separate opening lever such as falling blocks do.
The calibre IS probably .45/70 although other calibres were offered.

Post by **dev** » Sat Oct 07, 2006 11:27 am

Is that a little like the old BSA Martini 50 m .22 target rifles? I mean operation wise. It was a very nice solid mechanism. Thank you for the infro.
Regards,

Dev

Grumpy";p="4511 wrote: ? The Trapdoor Springfield does have a trigger guard. What HSharief was describing is the opening mechanism of the Sharps which utilises the trigger guard to do so in a dual purpose role, rather than employing a separate opening lever such as falling blocks do.
The calibre IS probably .45/70 although other calibres were offered.

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