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Nationa .22 Air pistol | Trigger too hard

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 9:11 pm
by gverma
Hi
I am not sure if this was a topic for air guns or gunsmithing, but here I am.

I have a National spring action air rifle and an air pistol.

Now one of the tips give to me elsewhere in this forum was that before on shoots bring the trigger to a point that just squeezing it would fire the pellet. This worked great for me with my rifle because the trigger was soft. The trigger in my pistol however is very hard.

What should I do to make it softer?

Thanks
Regards
Gaurav

Re: Nationa .22 Air pistol | Trigger too hard

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 9:27 pm
by DAN
Common problem with Indian airguns....Some time back remember shooting someone's air-rifle, Its trigger was so hard, had to use three fingers to shoot!! :shock:

Re: Nationa .22 Air pistol | Trigger too hard

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 10:49 pm
by gverma
So whats the resolution.
On the same note I have been informed that I cant use petrolium oil on a PCP pistol as it might ignite.
However on an air rife can I use the regular lubricating oil the kind used for sewing machines ?

Re: Nationa .22 Air pistol | Trigger too hard

Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 3:56 pm
by DAN
gverma wrote:So whats the resolution.
On the same note I have been informed that I cant use petrolium oil on a PCP pistol as it might ignite.
However on an air rife can I use the regular lubricating oil the kind used for sewing machines ?
Dont worry, u can use oil, it will not ignite if u put it on the spring of the trigger...
Once i conducted a experiment by putting different oils in the hollow of the pellet and firing...many oils didn't work but the sewing machine oil did work...the pellet went a little faster and sometimes produced a whistling sound like a cci stinger :shock: ...You can see if the oil burns by dry firing a airgun and putting some oil in the hole where the air leaves the chamber...The barrel of the airgun will be bright red, probably because of the burnt oil. :mrgreen:

Re: Nationa .22 Air pistol | Trigger too hard

Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 4:34 pm
by kanwar76
DAN wrote:
gverma wrote:So whats the resolution.
On the same note I have been informed that I cant use petrolium oil on a PCP pistol as it might ignite.
However on an air rife can I use the regular lubricating oil the kind used for sewing machines ?
Dont worry, u can use oil, it will not ignite if u put it on the spring of the trigger...
Once i conducted a experiment by putting different oils in the hollow of the pellet and firing...many oils didn't work but the sewing machine oil did work...the pellet went a little faster and sometimes produced a whistling sound like a cci stinger :shock: ...You can see if the oil burns by dry firing a airgun and putting some oil in the hole where the air leaves the chamber...The barrel of the airgun will be bright red, probably because of the burnt oil. :mrgreen:
And you will have messed up seals and may be a broken spring also

Re: Nationa .22 Air pistol | Trigger too hard

Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 6:16 pm
by gverma
So the question still remains can i make my trigger a little softer ?

-- Thu Mar 25, 2010 6:16 pm --

So the question still remains can i make my trigger a little softer ?

-- Thu Mar 25, 2010 6:16 pm --

So the question still remains can i make my trigger a little softer ?


So asking the question three times will make it lighter eh? Mod.

Re: Nationa .22 Air pistol | Trigger too hard

Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 6:26 pm
by ebenezer
Gverma,

I too have a IHP National air pistol in .22. But there will be a screw close to the trigger which is adjustable. This will increase or decrease the trigger pull depending on the adjustment you make. Did you try that?

Regards,
Ebenezer

Re: Nationa .22 Air pistol | Trigger too hard

Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 6:38 pm
by gverma
yup been there done that :-(

Re: Nationa .22 Air pistol | Trigger too hard

Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 7:09 pm
by ebenezer
gverma wrote:yup been there done that :-(
Try fixing it by a gunsmith. That should solve your problem.

Ebenezer

Re: Nationa .22 Air pistol | Trigger too hard

Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 7:11 pm
by gverma
Any good gun smith you can suggest in Delhi Area. I need one in any case to get my guns serviced

Re: Nationa .22 Air pistol | Trigger too hard

Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 7:16 pm
by ebenezer
gverma wrote:Any good gun smith you can suggest in Delhi Area. I need one in any case to get my guns serviced
Contact Abhijeet, Dev or any other Delhi-based member. They should be able to help you. I am from Chennai and have no idea about Delhi gunsmiths.

Regards,
Ebenezer

Re: Nationa .22 Air pistol | Trigger too hard

Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 9:42 pm
by dev
If gv had done some searching he would have come across a site run by tirtha This thread has been edited to conform with Indian For Guns policy as stated in the Announcements forum. You can buy an improved trigger and have it fitted to your air rifle. Read about having a spring compressor and make one. Take your rifle apart and use Moly grease again available at the same site and apply where ever there is metal on metal contact.

Don't be scared of taking the air rifle apart, that is how most of learned. You will gain a lot by learning to tune your air rifle yourself. Be safe and you have nothing to worry about. If all else fails catch hold of messrs. shamshuddin gun house. If you go to siri fort tomorrow and day after (27th-28th march he will be there). Or else grab onto Mr. Rajeev Sharma who will be there but will be awfully busy conducting the Delhi State Competition. He is the greatest airgunsmith there is over here (besides being a lawyer and the head of the Delhi State shooting Association).

Re: Nationa .22 Air pistol | Trigger too hard

Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 10:42 pm
by gverma
Hay thanks for inputs

I have actually gone through the link This thread has been edited to conform with Indian For Guns policy as stated in the Announcements forum on the site you have suggested and I am scared to death on opening up my guns... as I have never done that....

I will do the suggested...