Gentlemen,
Smith & Wesson has identified a condition that may exist in certain PPK and PPK/S pistols which may permit a round to be discharged without the trigger being pulled. When the manual safety is disengaged, Smith & Wesson’s Product Engineering Group has determined that the possibility exists in certain firearms that lowering the hammer may cause a chambered round to fire.
I don't really know how many of these handguns will be there in our country ( March 2002 to Feb 2009 lots) but it is interesting to see that IOF is not the only one making mistakes !!!
Here is the link :-
http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/wcs/ ... onId=10506
best,
R.
Important Safety Recall Notice
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Important Safety Recall Notice
It's always better to have a gun and not need it than need a gun and not have it !
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Re: Important Safety Recall Notice
Amazing!!!
It took them 7 years to identify this problem. That has to be some kind of record, I guess.
Regards
It took them 7 years to identify this problem. That has to be some kind of record, I guess.
Regards
Jeff Cooper advocated four basic rules of gun safety:
1) All guns are always loaded. Even if they are not, treat them as if they are.
2) Never let the muzzle cover anything you are not willing to destroy.
3) Keep your finger off the trigger till your sights are on the target.
4) Identify your target, and what is behind it.
1) All guns are always loaded. Even if they are not, treat them as if they are.
2) Never let the muzzle cover anything you are not willing to destroy.
3) Keep your finger off the trigger till your sights are on the target.
4) Identify your target, and what is behind it.
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Re: Important Safety Recall Notice
The Doc wrote: I don't really know how many of these handguns will be there in our country ( March 2002 to Feb 2009 lots) but it is interesting to see that IOF is not the only one making mistakes !!!R.
Good find doc, but it goes to show that these folks will at-least own up on a mistake they committed. Cant say the same for IOF. Wonder how many hoops one will have to jump through for a similar situation with the IOF.
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Re: Important Safety Recall Notice
S&W was comparatively quick considering that it took Remington decades to change the trigger on their Model 700.
Since 1950 Remington used a trigger group called the Walker Fire Control System on their rifles including the popular Model 700. The rifle could occasionally fire on safety release , this flaw was documented in Walker's patent in 1950.
Remington has paid out millions of dollars in settlements in court cases due to injuries caused by this design flaw, but they figured it is cheaper to pay out occasional court settlements than to recall the hundreds of thousands of rifle and retrofit.
Unlike the S&W, It is possible that there are many older Rem 700's in India as the trigger was completely changed only around 2007 when they came out with their X-Mark pro trigger. They did make some design modifications around 1979 but I don't think it completely eliminated this problem.
I faced this problem on a new Rem 700 XCR I purchased in 2007, luckily I discovered it when cleaning the gun and no one was hurt. Now I have a new Timney trigger on that gun.
Herb
Since 1950 Remington used a trigger group called the Walker Fire Control System on their rifles including the popular Model 700. The rifle could occasionally fire on safety release , this flaw was documented in Walker's patent in 1950.
Remington has paid out millions of dollars in settlements in court cases due to injuries caused by this design flaw, but they figured it is cheaper to pay out occasional court settlements than to recall the hundreds of thousands of rifle and retrofit.
Unlike the S&W, It is possible that there are many older Rem 700's in India as the trigger was completely changed only around 2007 when they came out with their X-Mark pro trigger. They did make some design modifications around 1979 but I don't think it completely eliminated this problem.
I faced this problem on a new Rem 700 XCR I purchased in 2007, luckily I discovered it when cleaning the gun and no one was hurt. Now I have a new Timney trigger on that gun.
Herb
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Re: Important Safety Recall Notice
Since the European-made pistols didn't show that defect, it would seem that either improper tolerances of parts, S&W most likely re-dimensioned the metric blueprints; or improper heat treating of the parts caused the problem. That it took seven years to correct the problem does not mean that it was known for that long. In a case like this the manufacturer does not find out about the defect until complaints start coming in, and the defect does not show up until considerable wear has occurred. It would certainly be interesting to know what the cause of the problem was. Cheers.