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Modifying IOF .22 Rifle- Need Advice

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 11:25 pm
by nm
Hi guys,

I have purchased a .22 IOF rifle from our friendly neighborhood Garg Armory, Delhi.
They have been nice enough to sell it at the controlled rates.... :wink: and allow me to select a good piece of my choice.

I went there with our big gun Abhijeet and from among 3-4 rifles, we managed to find a rifle with the stock intact and without any cracks. The trigger pull was also surprisingly decent and even the safety of this piece was working…..

I request your advice on possible modifications I should get including the customary aesthetic improvements like polish, etc.
I want to mount a scope (3-9x40 or similar) and use it for target practice-open sight.

Looking forward to your suggestions/experiences.
Thanks & Regards,
Nishant

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 11:52 pm
by striker
congrates NM :-)
if your budget permits pls change IOf .22 rifle's
stock to sports stock like brno with good wood grains & rebluing

cheerss
sankar

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 12:25 am
by nm
Hi Striker,

Which wood do you suggest ?

Any experience with the bluing IOF .22 rifle? Which bluing process do you suggest?

Isn’t the original powder coating more lasting ?

Thanks,
Nishant

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 12:35 am
by striker
walnut wood stock with best colour,grains would be fine .
as far as bluing it should be given to good handed gunsmith.
powder coating is only for steel furniture and not for sports goods

cheers
sankar

Re: Modifying IOF .22 Rifle- Need Advice

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 1:09 am
by hamiclar01
congrats on finally getting your hands on a good piece nm. patience is a virtue well rewarded.

stock/bluing is merely cosmetic. as far as actual, propah modifications to the .22, i would recommend you chato:

http://indiansforguns.com/viewtopic.php?t=8

where the subject is covered extensively, by a team of international experts :D

Re: Modifying IOF .22 Rifle- Need Advice

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 4:24 am
by indian
Congrats on getting a nice piece Nishant :) BTW did you get the spare mag and accessories(as advertised by IOFB) too.please post some pictures if possible.

cheers,
Ravi teja :)

Re: Modifying IOF .22 Rifle- Need Advice

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 8:14 am
by Mack The Knife
Getting a new stock (assuming it's a sporter stock), barrel reprofiled and action blued isn't necessary. Considering the quality of work of workmanship in this country I would consider this a waste of money unless you are prepared to pay Bobby Sidhu's prices. Quality costs money.

What you should do is:

1) Clean out that terrible inletting.

2) Freefloat the barrel.

3) Glass bed or pillar bed the action. I have done the latter as I did not have glass bedding compound.

4) Chage the slot headed screws to allen screws and invest in a torque wrench. You may have to experiment with different torque settings from 4.5 N-m to 6 N-m to see which setting gives you the best groups. Mine is at 5.5 N-m for the action screws and 6.0 N-m for the scope mount screws. I can strip the entire rifle and reassemble it without loosing my zero. What you save on rezeroing costs will eventually pay for the torque wrench. It also allows you to remove your scope to use the open sights and then put the scope back without loosing zero.

5) Recrown the muzzle. I have used a 11 degree target crown.

6) Lap the bolt rails to make things a little smoother if it isn't already. Don't go overboard with the lapping process.

7) Change the trigger hinge pin to one with tighter tolerances. You will need to machine this.

8 ) Buy yourself a straight tubed scope rather than one with an objective bell. A board member recently brought me a second hand Simmons WTC 1.5-5x20 (thanks mate!) and I couldn't be happier. Unfortunately, you will not be able to use a low mount because this brings the 'eye bell' too low for the bolt to open fully. However, the medium height mounts are still an improvement on the high mounts that I had to use previously. I prefer to lap my scopemount rings so as to get flush/even fit on the scope tube.

9) Last but not least and this is optional and you take full responsibility if you decide to do this - have your gunsmith cut the barrel down to no less than 1/2" over the legal minimum of 20".

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 12:44 pm
by Olly
Many congratulations Nishant, on the new arrival !! The happiness is no less than a baby being born in the family... looking forward to meeting the new one.. !!

Re: Modifying IOF .22 Rifle- Need Advice

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 1:38 pm
by dodger
vishosingh Posted sum of these pictures of a .315 Rifle. and you may ask him where he got this done because the New Stock looks very Nice.. even the Bolt and the Powder coated barrel looks Awesome,
This is the link, http://indiansforguns.com/viewtopic.php ... c&&start=0

Thanks.....

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 2:30 pm
by nm
:lol:

Re: Modifying IOF .22 Rifle- Need Advice

Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 9:35 am
by penpusher
The license in Form IX should specifically mention 'shorten'.The barrel can't be shortened to less than 20" and the intimation of this having been undertaken, has to be given to the licensing authority.

See Sec.6 and Sec. 26 of the Arms Act and Rule 20 and 21 of the Arms Rules.

Re: Modifying IOF .22 Rifle- Need Advice

Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 12:59 am
by nm
penpusher wrote:The license in Form IX should specifically mention 'shorten'.The barrel can't be shortened to less than 20" and the intimation of this having been undertaken, has to be given to the licensing authority.

See Sec.6 and Sec. 26 of the Arms Act and Rule 20 and 21 of the Arms Rules.
I guess, I'll not get into the barrel shortening now.....will make do with other improvements.....

Nishant

Re: Modifying IOF .22 Rifle- Need Advice

Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 2:12 pm
by The Doc
nm wrote:I guess, I'll not get into the barrel shortening now.....will make do with other improvements.
Nishant,

I might be a bit too late in giving you my two cents of advice. Before doing any changes to the IOF .22 rifle , kindly take it to the range and put several shots through it just to see how does the rifle "fit" you and how well does it perform. Its a good idea to use imported ammo that time 'coz a lot of problems with the KF ammo might be blamed on the performance of a rather "innocent " rifle.

The powder coating is more durable than the bluing though the later might look better. Please consider that tapering or shortening the barrel is going to decrease the resale value of your rifle. If I guess correctly , then you will not keep the IOF .22 rifle with you for a longish time and as soon as you get a reasonable BRNO or something similar, you will invest in that . So my friend , my point is , why spend unnecessarily on the IOF getting it radically modified and losing on the resale value ? You can however get the stock/checkering/colour sorted out according to your own liking ( AC made one green full stock for a client's IOF.22 :mrgreen: ). By the way , the bolt gradually gets better once you put a few hundred bullets through the rifle.

best,

RP.

Re: Modifying IOF .22 Rifle- Need Advice

Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 9:40 pm
by arshad_ahmad48
last month we modified a .22 IOF into BRNO. It looks exactly like BRNO if you don't see the numbers.

PM or mail me your contact details.

Re: Modifying IOF .22 Rifle- Need Advice

Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 10:07 pm
by striker
arshad
Few clear Pics would speak louder than Text

cheers
sankar