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Polishing compression chamber with flap wheel
Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 12:58 am
by pratik_mahale
Recently I brought a mini bench grinder with flexible shaft & I thought of using this shaft to polish the compression chamber of my IHP 35 so I made three flap wheels with 80,120 & 400 grit sanding paper
DIY Flap Wheel -1.jpg
First I cut 5 strips of Sanding paper 4 cm long
Pasted it on dremel sanding band in clock wise direction
Then I polished my IHP 35 compression chamber first with 80 then 120 & finally with 400 grit flap wheel
DIY Flap Wheel -2.jpg
I also carefully polished the trigger with my DIY Belt Sander & now the trigger pull is around 1.5 Kg
Here is a link for making a simpler flap wheel for drill machine
http://www.instructables.com/id/Make-yo ... lap-wheel/
Re: Polishing compression chamber with flap wheel
Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 10:17 am
by brihacharan
pratik_mahale wrote:Recently I brought a mini bench grinder with flexible shaft & I thought of using this shaft to polish the compression chamber of my IHP 35 so I made three flap wheels with 80,120 & 400 grit sanding paper
DIY Flap Wheel -1.jpg
First I cut 5 strips of Sanding paper 4 cm long
Pasted it on dremel sanding band in clock wise direction
Then I polished my IHP 35 compression chamber first with 80 then 120 & finally with 400 grit flap wheel
DIY Flap Wheel -2.jpg
I also carefully polished the trigger with my DIY Belt Sander & now the trigger pull is around 1.5 Kg
Here is a link for making a simpler flap wheel for drill machine
http://www.instructables.com/id/Make-yo ... lap-wheel/
Hi Pratik,
> Excellent & innovative adaptation on a flexible shaft for internal grinding / polishing & buffing
> But remember that "Too Smooth" an internal of a receiver is not preferable - The reason being the surface will not retain lube for longer periods.
> What is required is "Uniformity" of bore all throughout - A 200 grit is ideal as this leave very tiny crevices within which the lube gets retained + the flexibility of the synthetic seal will adapt itself to these = result increase in compression efficiency
> Well done!!!!
Briha
Re: Polishing compression chamber with flap wheel
Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 7:43 pm
by Basu
Good idea !!
I think cloth grit can only withstand the high RPM.
I am very keen to know the result.
Basu
Re: Polishing compression chamber with flap wheel
Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 8:03 pm
by airgun_novice
Dear Pratik,
Please be careful when you polish the trigger innards. You do not want the sear to be too smooth.
You should get the Innovator of the Month Award.
regs
A.
Re: Polishing compression chamber with flap wheel
Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 9:41 pm
by pratik_mahale
airgun_novice wrote:Dear Pratik,
Please be careful when you polish the trigger innards. You do not want the sear to be too smooth.
You should get the Innovator of the Month Award.
regs
A.
Thanks AGN
Baus you are right
Re: Polishing compression chamber with flap wheel
Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2013 8:43 am
by bennedose
Pratik Mahale you are giving me ideas.
If you buff out the inside of the compression chamber by 0.6 to 1 mm (0.3 to 0.5 mm all around), the internal volume of the chamber may increase by about 5-8% assuming a stroke volume of 54 cc. That could give a significant increase in power - although the piston would have a lot of play. Perhaps the play could be controlled by suitably sized rings.
Re: Polishing compression chamber with flap wheel
Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2013 12:40 pm
by brihacharan
airgun_novice wrote:Dear Pratik,
Please be careful when you polish the trigger innards. You do not want the sear to be too smooth.
You should get the Innovator of the Month Award.
regs
A.
> Too smooth trigger sears can cause AUTO FIRE which is "Dangerous" especially in springers - where the pressure of the compressed spring directly rests on the trigger sear - Whereas in PCPs its on the Valve which needs only very little pressure to open it to let the stored compressed air pass through the transfer port.
> AGN - thanks for putting it so succinctly
Briha
Re: Polishing compression chamber with flap wheel
Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2013 2:40 pm
by sa_ali
excellent DIY for internal polisher
Re: Polishing compression chamber with flap wheel
Posted: Sat Dec 28, 2013 8:38 pm
by sathya.sniper
bennedose wrote:Pratik Mahale you are giving me ideas.
If you buff out the inside of the compression chamber by 0.6 to 1 mm (0.3 to 0.5 mm all around), the internal volume of the chamber may increase by about 5-8% assuming a stroke volume of 54 cc. That could give a significant increase in power - although the piston would have a lot of play. Perhaps the play could be controlled by suitably sized rings.
i have small doubt regarding this function, If we need to add a ring to the side of the piston we might need a slit/a small place machined on the piston inorder to fit the O-ring around the piston but in our IHP piston there is not much thickness for making a slit for adding a Oring isnt it I think the piston must be thicker.
Is my question right ?
-Sathya
Re: Polishing compression chamber with flap wheel
Posted: Sat Dec 28, 2013 8:59 pm
by moulindu
Hi
Good work Pratikji, I tried a similar job of polishing the compression chamber using a hand drill. I installed a stick(as spindle) & paste a 200 grit sand paper on the end of it. But i was concerned with the centering of the spindle as non centered spindle will non-uniformly polish the compression chamber which may be more harmful.
Regards Moulindu