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Polishing Cartridges

Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 7:16 pm
by jonahpach
Anybody interested in having shiny new cartridges??
http://www.vijimech.com/products.html
Its called the vibo finishing machine..
This desi machine just might be the stuff for it. Anyway it looks just like some of those cartridge polishers I have seen on some websites

Re: Polishing Cartridges

Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 7:47 pm
by dr.jayakumar
yeah nice machine will be very useful for agriculture.can we polish a gun?

Re: Polishing Cartridges

Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 8:48 pm
by DAN
Cant we just use Brasso on the catridges...
It's what some dealers are using to make their 15-20 year old cartridges look new. :roll:

Re: Polishing Cartridges

Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 9:59 pm
by mundaire
DAN wrote:Cant we just use Brasso on the catridges...
really tempting, but I shall hold my peace on this one! :mrgreen:

Re: Polishing Cartridges

Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 10:02 pm
by dr.jayakumar
disgusting to know these facts.

Re: Polishing Cartridges

Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 10:03 pm
by jonahpach
It's very similar to this machine :
http://www.kramerindustriesonline.com/v ... series.htm

Re: Polishing Cartridges

Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 10:07 pm
by winnie_the_pooh
DAN wrote:Cant we just use Brasso on the catridges.
Why do you need to polish them? Are you going to put them on display?


If any body pops loaded cartridges into the vibrator,he might be in for a ka-boom experience when he fires them.

Re: Polishing Cartridges

Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 10:49 pm
by MoA
winnie_the_pooh wrote:
DAN wrote:Cant we just use Brasso on the catridges.
Why do you need to polish them? Are you going to put them on display?


If any body pops loaded cartridges into the vibrator,he might be in for a ka-boom experience when he fires them.
No Brasso weakens the brass and can lead to a failure. I wouldnt bother.

A lot of reloaders, including myself actualy use a vibratory tumbler to polish ammo. Why? To get the lubricant from full re-sizing off the case. Ammunition does not go ka-boom from being in a vibratory tumber. If vibrations could set of ammo, then there would be issues with transporting it via train, cars, trucks etc. I personally have tumbled ammunition for over twelve hours and have had no discernable difference in it, except for really shiny ammo.

The tumbler does contain corn cob media, or crushed walnut or a mix of the two. So yes there is quite a bit of friction. And having tumbled several hundred rounds at a time I have had no issues what so ever.

Re: Polishing Cartridges

Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2011 12:32 am
by TwoRivers
MoA, you are a true pioneer. Lets just note that the polishing of ammunition is warned against by the manufacturers of these tumblers. Last, but not least, is the danger of powder kernels breaking down during tumbling if the charge does not fill the case or is slightly compressed. That would change the burning characteristics of the powder. Being aware that you know better, I'd still go with the manufacturer, and advise everyone else not to tumble loaded cartridges. Cheers.

Re: Polishing Cartridges

Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2011 1:20 am
by winnie_the_pooh
MoA,

Just for fun,why not throw in some black powder cartridges the next time you turn on the tumbler and make a video of you firing it :wink:

You misunderstood.I am not saying that it is going to go off in the tumbler but possibility of this polishing changing the characteristic of the powder our world class Khadki Factory uses in it's ammo and it then going boom when fired.

Re: Polishing Cartridges

Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2011 9:21 am
by MoA
two Rivers: Powder does not break up. This has been tested time and time again. If powder broke up due to vibration, just how would you transport the ammunition? keep it safe from break up from vibration? All reloaders at some point will tumble ammunition to get the lubricant off the cases.

Winnie: see above. Been there done that no issues. Infact not only have I fired tumbled BP cartidges so has Shooter. It makes no difference. Of course with the .45-70 one only tumbles the plated/Jacketed bullets. Since you do not want to remove the lube from the cast bullets.

Re: Polishing Cartridges

Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2011 10:23 am
by zara678
i agree with MoA comments

Re: Polishing Cartridges

Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2011 11:18 am
by TwoRivers
Not "all" reloaders, MoA. Only those who boldly go where angels fear to tread. Not that being a reloader makes one exceptionally smart. I have replaced enough barrels, and removed stuck reloaded unfired cartridges for "reloaders", who'd blame everything and everybody but themselves. Vibration during transport is not the same as being tumbled. Rattling around is not tumbling over and over. I'll still remove sizing lubricant in a slightly more labor intensive way, despite your assurances. Besides, my media will last longer and do a better job, if it's not coated with lubricant. Happy tumbling!

Re: Polishing Cartridges

Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2011 8:50 pm
by Baljit
MoA wrote:
winnie_the_pooh wrote:
DAN wrote:Cant we just use Brasso on the catridges.
Why do you need to polish them? Are you going to put them on display?


If any body pops loaded cartridges into the vibrator,he might be in for a ka-boom experience when he fires them.
No Brasso weakens the brass and can lead to a failure. I wouldnt bother.

A lot of reloaders, including myself actualy use a vibratory tumbler to polish ammo. Why? To get the lubricant from full re-sizing off the case. Ammunition does not go ka-boom from being in a vibratory tumber. If vibrations could set of ammo, then there would be issues with transporting it via train, cars, trucks etc. I personally have tumbled ammunition for over twelve hours and have had no discernable difference in it, except for really shiny ammo.

The tumbler does contain corn cob media, or crushed walnut or a mix of the two. So yes there is quite a bit of friction. And having tumbled several hundred rounds at a time I have had no issues what so ever.

:agree: With MoA i am also useing tumbler for last 15 years and i did not see any problam.

Baljit

Re: Polishing Cartridges

Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 4:43 pm
by shooter
I have fired MoA's BP ammo.

Im not an expert. I cont tell you what kind of BP was used or what variety of cob or what ratio of corn and walnut.

I didnt even know whether it is dangerous or not.
MoA gave them to me and that was good enough for me since every one at the range treated him with a lot of respect and asking him about reloading and shooting. I know that this doesnt mean anything but for a newbie like me this was a sign that he knew what he was doing or making me do. Maybe ignorance is bliss. Maybe it was a dangerous practice.

All I can say is that i have fired them. In fact i fired dozens and dozens without any issues.

Lets see how this thread turns up.

MoA I cant believe you put my life at risk.
No more game pickle for you.